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::Can we please have "Penal Colony" released from the strictures of "Gulag" please? [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 21:18, 6 November 2016 (EST)
::Can we please have "Penal Colony" released from the strictures of "Gulag" please? [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 21:18, 6 November 2016 (EST)
:::AlanE, I fixed it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:47, 6 November 2016 (EST)
:::AlanE, I fixed it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:47, 6 November 2016 (EST)
:Thanks mate. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 22:04, 6 November 2016 (EST)
::::Many Gulag were in fact founded as penal colonies. The City of Magadan, fot instance. Long before Hitler, the communists did not herd people into gas ovens, they simply dumped hundreds and thousands off the Tran Siberian Railroad in the wilderness, out in the middle of nowhere, marked out on the ground were blocks and barracks were to built, and told to get to work. Many of these gulag/penal colonies did not need barbed wire fences as there was nowhere to go for an escapee.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 08:03, 8 November 2016 (EST)
::::Many Gulag were in fact founded as penal colonies. The City of Magadan, fot instance. Long before Hitler, the communists did not herd people into gas ovens, they simply dumped hundreds and thousands off the Tran Siberian Railroad in the wilderness, out in the middle of nowhere, marked out on the ground were blocks and barracks were to built, and told to get to work. Many of these gulag/penal colonies did not need barbed wire fences as there was nowhere to go for an escapee.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 08:03, 8 November 2016 (EST)
:Rob, if you squint and hold your head just right you may just catch a glimpse of the word "colony" in amongst the horrors of the labour camps that were the Gulag. But if you can describe a penal colony as being within the borders of its parent country and its inhabitants arriving there ''by train'', you're stretching things.
:Thanks mate. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 22:04, 6 November 2016 (EST)
:Anyway, my aim in wanting change was not to deny Gulag as a penal colony so much as deny ''penal colony'' the need to be described as a gulag. Which they weren't.
:[[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 23:10, 8 November 2016 (EST)