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::I felt that we needed an anti-establishment guy (like Ron Paul) to beat the establishment and drain the swamp, but not this guy. Not Donald Trump. He won't drain the swamp I'm afraid. Instead, he'll dump toxic sludge into it and leave a mess for the next president to clean up. [[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] 10:22, 7 December 2016 (EDT)
 
::I felt that we needed an anti-establishment guy (like Ron Paul) to beat the establishment and drain the swamp, but not this guy. Not Donald Trump. He won't drain the swamp I'm afraid. Instead, he'll dump toxic sludge into it and leave a mess for the next president to clean up. [[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] 10:22, 7 December 2016 (EDT)
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:::"Drain the swamp" is becoming an increasingly misused term. Trump used it to evoke memories of Reagan. Reagan used it when he said, "when you're up to you your ass in alligators, drain the swamp", meaning "cut the budget", the alligators being the Washington establishment bureaucrats and holdovers of Great Society and New Deal programs.  The swamp water is the budget funding, the alligators are establishment people. Trump is not taking about budget restraint, in fact, he's proposing massive stimulus and deficits. And DADT was never a conservative policy. It was always a liberal-progressive policy that liberals and progressives repudiated 20 years later as bigoted. Conservatives always proposed it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 13:51, 7 December 2016 (EST)
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