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Recently The Incredibles, was moved to the debatable section, for one slight detail. I do not believe it should remain in this section, I believe that it should be put back in the Greatest Conservative Movies sections for many reasons. First of all it might be the most conservative animation film ever made. Second it's only reason for being debatable is very minor. Almost every film has at least one conservative and liberal aspect. Third you really have to push it, to say that the boss; Gilbert Huph is a demonization of Capitalism. Yes he is heartless, but he is just a person, and to be fair to him he does not know that Bob Parr has superhero powers, all he knows that Bob Parr is not focusing on his work, with that logic, you could argue that J. Jonah Jameson is demonization of capitalism, as he is Peter Parker's boss, and he twists the paper, and often displays Spider-man in the paper as a bad guy, (and he too is unaware of his worker's powers). Fourth one of the reasons that Gilbert Huph, tells Bob not help his costumers, is because when Bob asks if he should, Gilbert Huph tells him that "the law requires that I answer no", which in no ways a negativity on capitalism, as the government is requiring him not help people and not the business. Finally the movie does promote capitalism, as the main lesson of the movie is to shown the negativity of an enforced mediocrity, from the government, which highly mocks socialism, not capitalism.
 
Recently The Incredibles, was moved to the debatable section, for one slight detail. I do not believe it should remain in this section, I believe that it should be put back in the Greatest Conservative Movies sections for many reasons. First of all it might be the most conservative animation film ever made. Second it's only reason for being debatable is very minor. Almost every film has at least one conservative and liberal aspect. Third you really have to push it, to say that the boss; Gilbert Huph is a demonization of Capitalism. Yes he is heartless, but he is just a person, and to be fair to him he does not know that Bob Parr has superhero powers, all he knows that Bob Parr is not focusing on his work, with that logic, you could argue that J. Jonah Jameson is demonization of capitalism, as he is Peter Parker's boss, and he twists the paper, and often displays Spider-man in the paper as a bad guy, (and he too is unaware of his worker's powers). Fourth one of the reasons that Gilbert Huph, tells Bob not help his costumers, is because when Bob asks if he should, Gilbert Huph tells him that "the law requires that I answer no", which in no ways a negativity on capitalism, as the government is requiring him not help people and not the business. Finally the movie does promote capitalism, as the main lesson of the movie is to shown the negativity of an enforced mediocrity, from the government, which highly mocks socialism, not capitalism.
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*Okay, fair enough. Feel free to revert, I just was concerned especially when [http://pixar.wikia.com/wiki/Gilbert_Huph#Trivia Gilbert Huph's page] on Pixar Wiki made it sound as though he WAS a demonization of capitalism (and it doesn't help that Wallace Shawn was specifically mentioned to not only be the opposite of Huph, but also implied he was a socialist due to his appearing in Michael Moore's film "Capitalism: A Love Story" and being a friend of Moore).
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*Okay, fair enough. Feel free to revert, I just was concerned especially when [http://pixar.wikia.com/wiki/Gilbert_Huph#Trivia Gilbert Huph's page] on Pixar Wiki made it sound as though he WAS a demonization of capitalism (and it doesn't help that Wallace Shawn was specifically mentioned to not only be the opposite of Huph, but also implied he was a socialist due to his appearing in Michael Moore's film "Capitalism: A Love Story" and being a friend of Moore). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 14:39, 10 December 2016 (EST)
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