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Talk:Geocentric theory (view source)
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, 03:53, December 17, 2016explanation
Just as a side question what is your background in physics? I just don't want introduce concepts too advanced or to simplify my replies if you already have that sort of understanding. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 16:03, 16 December 2016 (EST)
Just as a side question what is your background in physics? I just don't want introduce concepts too advanced or to simplify my replies if you already have that sort of understanding. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 16:03, 16 December 2016 (EST)
I should ask you the same thing. Why would you apply the same (wrong) equation to calculate the moon's velocity relative to the sun regardless of its direction of travel? I already provided that equation, show where it is incorrect. Also, you cannot just make up and misapply equations to explain away an inconsistency. I.E. you cannot apply the same equation to calculate a relative velocity for objects traveling in parallel directions as objects traveling in perpendicular / other directions to each other. This is completely inconsistent with relative motion theory, which I'm sure you will agree, needs to be applied consistently and at all times. Not selectively when it suits our theories.
If you are stating the moon varies its speed to maintain its relative velocity to the Earth, that is a new Heliocentric revelation I look forward to hearing about including how and why its speed varies. I'm not going to explain frame of reference anymore. Re-read my contribution as nothing has changed.
I'll explain this here the way I do to my kids. Imagine the sun is an announcer tower in the center of a circular racetrack infield. There is a 1 mile wide track around it. You are in a Ford Earth in the center of that track driving around that track at 60 MPH. A Chevy moon is traveling 62.05 MPH, in the same direction, along side you on your right. That car would overtake you at a RELATIVE velocity of 2.05 MPH, or VERY slowly. It finally gets several hundred feet in front of you, and begins to turn left in a path that takes it in front of you. It travels across your path like a car crossing in front of you at an intersection. Taking on a path perpendicular to ours, it doesn't appear to travel at a slow relative velocity of 2.05 MPH anymore, instead the relative velocity we witness is 62.05 MPH - the same speed it was traveling relative to the tower when along side us. This is strictly because our frame of reference has changed. Both cars are still traveling the exact same respective speeds. As we continue on our same path, that car turns left again and heads toward us in the opposite direction of our travel. Now we are 2 cars passing each other head on. Our frame of reference has changed again. We observe a relative velocity of 122.05 MPH (Vac=Vbc+Vab.) It appears to travel 60X FASTER than when it passed us traveling in the same direction as ours. The car then turns left again after passing us and travels perpendicular to our direction of travel behind us. Again we see the 62.05 MPH velocity due to the perpendicular frame of reference. Finally it returns to its starting point, traveling the same direction as our car, once again creeping up beside us and passing us very slowly. Both cars maintain the same exact respective speeds, but due to our frame of reference, the relative velocity between our 2 car changes tremendously! Summary: The sun is an announcer stand in the middle of a racetrack infield. A Ford Earth is driving around the track and, simultaneously, a Chevy moon is driving circles around the Ford Earth. Both cars maintain their same respective speeds. The explanation above is what all passengers in the Ford Earth witness. This is as simply as I can explain this.
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