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::::::::I think there is a lesson to draw from all this: Unlike Mexico, China '''''has''''' sent us their best people. The dimmer bulbs have stayed in Beijing to run the foreign ministry. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 08:02, 21 December 2016 (EST)
::::::::I think there is a lesson to draw from all this: Unlike Mexico, China '''''has''''' sent us their best people. The dimmer bulbs have stayed in Beijing to run the foreign ministry. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 08:02, 21 December 2016 (EST)
:::::::::What's interesting about this incident is, it was done to see how Trump would react ''at a time Trump was powerless to do anything''. IOW, the Chinese probably do not know what to make of Trump. They probably never studied him c!ose!y (as they would with others) anticipating him being President someday. What they know of Trump they've read in US media, which they are smart enough to know is totally distorted and wrong. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 20:05, 25 December 2016 (EST)
:::::::::What's interesting about this incident is, it was done to see how Trump would react ''at a time Trump was powerless to do anything''. IOW, the Chinese probably do not know what to make of Trump. They probably never studied him c!ose!y (as they would with others) anticipating him being President someday. What they know of Trump they've read in US media, which they are smart enough to know is totally distorted and wrong. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 20:05, 25 December 2016 (EST)
== 304 electors vote for Trump ==
Despite the best efforts of the Dems and the media to undermine American democracy, only two Republicans voted against Trump.[http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d56309fad6af452686cef73adcfebf57] One voted for Kasich and the other for libertarian quack Ron Paul. (You read that right -- not Rand.) Michael Moore was offering money in public: "[https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/d2ea9bca-751a-377f-b095-c9eb8b5bce7d/michael-moore%3A-i-will-pay.html Michael Moore Appeals to GOP Electors: Go Rogue and I Will Pay Your State Fine]." What do you suppose these people would say in private? [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 20:10, 19 December 2016 (EST)
:They would say in private whatever works. The words mean nothing--only the results. Sometimes they go public with it under that same mentality. Ick! --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 11:13, 20 December 2016 (EST)
::I'm just glad the vast majority of Trump electors didn't fall for the Democrats plan (the Trump elector who voted for Kasich and posted an op-ed in the NYT collaborated with Clinton's campaign). But I still have to wonder about why a Republican elector would not vote for Trump, considering he is not less conservative in any way compared to Romney or McCain, and considering he picked a cabinet much more conservative than the other two would ever consider picking? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:17, 20 December 2016 (EST)
:::Now why would Republican Electors go along witb Democrat plans? What the Democrats wanted to do is illegal. Oh yea, I forgot, that is a primary difference between Republicans and Democrats. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 00:59, 21 December 2016 (EST)
By the way, would someone please update the electoral map on the [[2016 U.S. presidential election|2016 presidential election]] article to show the faithless electors? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:18, 20 December 2016 (EST)
==Tea Party Crusaders==
Every time I check this site from whatever device, cellphone, laptop, desktop, work, public library etc access is denied. Is it for US eyes only? Thanks. PS, Muslism?--[[User:AaronC1|AaronC1]] ([[User talk:AaronC1|talk]]) 09:50, 20 December 2016 (EST)
==Berlin Attack==
The Daily Mail article linked after the line that describes the driver as a Muslim does not mention the race/religion of the attacker. In fact, the article states that the Berlin police admitted the Pakistani asylum-seeker they initially arrested and questioned was not the perpetrator. [[User:MatthewT|MatthewT]] ([[User talk:MatthewT|talk]]) 12:32, 20 December 2016 (EST)
:[https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/dec/20/berlin-christmas-market-attack-suspect-pakistan-live-coverage?page=with:block-5859259ae4b0061272810a1b#block-5859259ae4b0061272810a1b Here is a source] that states that the attacker was an asylum-seeker from Pakistan (even though there are doubts if he is the actual person). Either way, [https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/20/angela-merkel-open-door-migrants-berlin-christmas-market-attack-refugee this other article] from the leftist ''The Guardian'' states that "the similarities are striking" between Nice and Berlin. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:51, 20 December 2016 (EST)
::Looks like Angela Merkel's out of a job. Maybe she can get hired at Carl' Jr. to run a store with all the executive management experience she's got. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 00:56, 21 December 2016 (EST)
:::It turns out the German authorities were wrong. The likely suspect (and the MSM is still calling the suspect a "suspect" for now) was actually an asylum-seeker from Tunisia, who was supposed to have been deported earlier this year [http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/12/21/berlin-christmas-market-attacker/95691012/]. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:41, 21 December 2016 (EST)
== NeverTrump "conservatives" are liberals ==
In case nobody's realized it yet, "conservatives" who strongly oppose Trump, like Evan McMullin or Chris Suprun are [http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/20/next-idea-after-electoral-college-fail-anti-trump-forces-look-for-new-cause.html proving that they are in the wrong party.] I have nothing against a conservative who doesn't fully trust Trump and thus won't vote for or fully support him, but will still give him a fair chance (I am close to a few of them, by the way, so I mean it). However, if someone calls themselves a conservative and is now plotting a way to impeach Trump as soon as he takes office, or someone who borrows directly from the Democrat Party's attack book (as McMullin did, shown in the article above) to criticize Trump, is showing that, ideologically speaking, they are more in line with the Dems. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:02, 20 December 2016 (EST)
:Republicans and Democrats ars very different today from what they were 6 weeks ago, and are permanently changed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 00:54, 21 December 2016 (EST)
::I disagree. I do think this election will be remembered as a defining or realigning election, but Republicans and Democrats are still pretty much the same as they were before the election (with the exception of, ''possibly'', infrastructure spending and trade agreements). The parties positions on Obamacare, illegal immigration, school choice, abortion, homosexual "marriage," and defense spending are still the same. The only difference, for now at least, is that Republican leadership is actually more representative of the party base. Trump's movement has rooted out the liberal do-nothing Republicans like McMullin. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:34, 21 December 2016 (EST)
:::According to the ''New York Times'', for the first time in the history of either party, the GOP did better among the [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/23/upshot/how-the-obama-coalition-crumbled-leaving-an-opening-for-trump.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news less affluent than it did among the rich], The Dems, it appears, are now the party of the country club set, and the GOP is the party of common people. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 20:34, 25 December 2016 (EST)
::::This appears to be the trend throughout much of the world. It is definitely the case in Europe, where the affluent tend to be more pro-EU and the blue-collar workers vote more for right-wing Eurosceptic parties rather than socialists. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:28, 25 December 2016 (EST)
:::::Seriously, do you think the EU can survive another 30 years? Reports we see in the US do not look very good. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 21:40, 25 December 2016 (EST)
::::::The EU is in serious danger, and right-wing parties that once were considered extreme fringe parties are now mainstream and the largest parties in their countries. They could win in elections in France and the Netherlands and do very well in Germany next year.
::::::However, I still have a feeling that the liberal elite will find some way to overcome this and still manage to create the United States of Europe. Immediately after Brexit, they [http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/29/european-leaders-release-plan-eu-army-turkish-membership/ proposed even further integration]. They are ruthless fanatics and will not stop until they have achieved total political unification under their socialist government. Their massive immigration schemes are completely upheaving the traditional demographics of Europe. I don't think the right-wing gains will destroy the EU. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:54, 25 December 2016 (EST)
:::::::A big shift that may be taking place is the right wing populist movements are becoming the parties of women's rights. This appears to be the case in Germany and Sweden, I think. I don't know about France and England or other places. Traditional leftist parties evidently have not responded to the rape crisis. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 22:36, 25 December 2016 (EST)
:::::::And a brief observstion: German domestic political trends have for many decades moreless lagged behind America by about 1-3 years. The upcoming German elections appear to be a replay of the US elections, with the establishment candidate and establishment media cock-sure of themse!ves, the name-calling, and a thoroughly fed up electorate tired of political correctness and being ignored. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 03:09, 26 December 2016 (EST)
::::::::As for the women's rights, that may be the case as the right-wing populists are the only ones who truly seem to care about this issue, which is oftentimes the fault of refugees. However, the mainstream parties couldn't care less. In their eyes, right-wing populists are the equivalent of Nazis because they oppose the holy and sacred ideas of open borders, unrestricted immigration, and eventual political unification.
::::::::As for the German elections, I think you're right. I predict big gains for the AfD in Germany, as well as the National Front in France and the Party for Freedom in the Netherlands. However, we should remember that the political system in Germany is much different than the United States. First off, the German parliament uses proportional representation. Also, in recent years all throughout Europe, the "center-right" and "center-left" parties (which do have basically the same liberal views) have been forming governing coalitions in order to keep right-wing populists out of the government. Thus, the AfD could become the largest party in Germany, but the "mainstream" parties will still find away to keep them powerless.
::::::::However, we'll see what actually happens. I could be wrong (and I hope I am). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:19, 26 December 2016 (EST)
:::::::::The mainstream German media is being manipulated in virtually the same fashion as we saw in the United States the past 15 monthes, false narratives, attacks, etc. Forget the merits of any issue, this sort of press manipulation '''''outrages''''' people. Why the vendors of such garbage can't see and understand that, I have no idea. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 23:20, 26 December 2016 (EST)
== What liberals mean by "consensus" ==
They mean you're fired if you don't agree: "[http://freebeacon.com/politics/congress-obama-admin-fired-top-scientist-advance-climate-change-plans/ Congress: Obama Admin Fired Top Scientist to Advance Climate Change Plans]." [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 10:26, 21 December 2016 (EST)
:This fact is obvious. If you don't agree with the liberal agenda, you're called "racist," "sexist," "homophobic," "bigoted," etc. Everyone who disagrees is chased away and marginalized, and the remaining people, who all happen to agree with the liberals create a "consensus" among themselves, as if everyone had a say in the first place. This has been going on for a while, unfortunately. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:31, 21 December 2016 (EST)
== Democrats in 2020 ==
The party's in sad shape. The grassroots wants Michelle Obama or "someone entirely new."[http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/21/democrats-running-for-president-2020/95651728/] As far as a candidate a Democrat might actually be able to vote for goes, Biden tops the list. He'll be 78 in 2021. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 18:09, 22 December 2016 (EST)
:True, I don't see Biden running again at that age, and no other candidate (with the exception of Jim Webb, who probably can never win a Dem primary) can win a presidential election, it seems. However, we should be cautious: many people probably thought the same of the GOP in 2009, but look what happened. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:22, 22 December 2016 (EST)
::Elizabeth Warren. She can recite all the communist mantras and talking points by heart but also, more importantly, appears to want the job of top dog. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 09:12, 24 December 2016 (EST)
==General Relativity==
Why is Conservapedia against General Relativity? Not only is it said to be one of the best proven theories, but it was also proven by the recent detection of gravitational waves. Besides that, it's necessary for Dr. [[Russell Humphreys]] time dilation [[Starlight Problem| cosmological model]]. --[[User:Ambassador|Ambassador]] ([[User talk:Ambassador|talk]]) 18:58, 22 December 2016 (EST)
== Electoral College Map needs to be updated to show faithless electors ==
Would someone update [[:File:ElectoralCollege2016.jpg]] to show the faithless electors? Nobody has done that yet. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:35, 23 December 2016 (EST)