| − | I added two illustrative [[analogies]] to H<sub>2</sub>O, due to the fact that water cannot exist simultaneously in three forms, each in the other. The water analogy, while good enough in a very limited way, tends toward the heretical view of [[modalism]], which is a [[Unitarianism|Unitarian]] idea that one Person played three different roles, but ignores the fact that ''the Son prayed to the Father and the Holy Spirit descended upon him''. I got the "mind" illustration from various [[Catechesis|catechetical]] sources which use it as a non-physical, "spiritual", reality with which each of us is familiar. The [[Human being|human]] analogy I borrowed from my knowledge of Physiology, Psychiatry, Psychology and Sociology (no, I'm not an expert, just knowledgeable). The statement re the expressor, expressed, having self-knowing appreciation, comes from my own reflections, drawn from prayerful communion and dynamic psychology, informed by Catholic and Orthodox mystical theology. (I could have used in addition, "what it is, how it works, and what it does"—also, "object, shape, and color"—as inherent expressions of reality, but that would have been too much, they are not alive, and they were not necessary.) Helpful as each of these is, no description of words conveys the reality of being in the presence of God, like the touch of a loved one's hand. Yet each of us having been created with the gift of varying degrees of intelligence, the Lord seems to be ready to use intelligent communication to help us toward communion with him, else we would not have the Bible, apologetics, preaching of the word, and forms of worship and service in the community of the Body of Christ. I am just doing what I can to help express the truth of what is finally inexpressible ("ineffable") in its entirety. Yet, for all their limitations, incomplete expressions that are not the entire reality are adequate when accurate. I have never subscribed to the sentiment, "Oh, as soon as you express it, you have falsified it." Well, that's just ''Bull-cr..!''—stupidity disguising itself as profundity, and offering nothing either insightful or helpful. Genuine [[Christian apologetics]] is the best way to go.<br>God be with you all and richly bless you in his presence, now henceforward and forever! ''Semper Fi!'' --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 12:53, 28 January 2017 (EST) | + | I added two illustrative [[analogies]] to H<sub>2</sub>O, due to the fact that water cannot exist simultaneously in three forms, each in the other. The water analogy, while good enough in a very limited way, tends toward the heretical view of [[modalism]], which is a [[Unitarianism|Unitarian]] idea that one Person played three different roles, but ignores the fact that ''the Son prayed to the Father and the Holy Spirit descended upon him''. I got the "mind" illustration from various [[Catechesis|catechetical]] sources which use it as a non-physical, "spiritual", reality with which each of us is familiar. The [[Human being|human]] analogy I borrowed from my knowledge of Physiology, Psychiatry, Psychology and Sociology (no, I'm not an expert, just knowledgeable). The statement re the expressor, expressed, having self-knowing appreciation, comes from my own reflections, drawn from prayerful communion and dynamic psychology, informed by Catholic and Orthodox mystical theology. (I could have used in addition, "what it is, how it works, and what it does"—also, "object, shape, and color"—as inherent expressions of reality, but that would have been too much, they are not alive, and they were not necessary.) Helpful as each of these is, no description of words conveys the reality of being in the presence of God, like the touch of a loved one's hand. Yet each of us having been created with the gift of varying degrees of intelligence, the Lord seems to be ready to use intelligent communication to help us toward communion with him, else we would not have the Bible, apologetics, preaching of the word, and forms of worship and service in the community of the Body of Christ. I am just doing what I can to help express the truth of what is finally inexpressible ("ineffable") in its entirety. Yet, for all their limitations, incomplete expressions that are not the entire reality are adequate when accurate. I have never subscribed to the sentiment, "Oh, as soon as you express it, you have falsified it." Well, that's just ''Bull-cr..!''—stupidity disguising itself as profundity, and offering nothing either insightful or helpful. Genuine [[Christian apologetics]] is the best way to go. <br>Incarnate reality merits incarnate explanations, which guide incarnate intelligent compassion in useful service to God and man.<br>God be with you all and richly bless you in his presence, now henceforward and forever! ''Semper Fi!'' --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 12:53, 28 January 2017 (EST) |