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Playfully yanking Cons's chain.
::What would be a really useful direction for your energies would be a debate page on the subject of whether religion in the United States (or the world, if that's your preference) is increasing or decreasing. There is already a debate going on on the [[Talk:Main_Page#Now_that_liberals_are_getting_violent_and_acting_like_trapped_rats.2C_how_long_before_liberalism_collapses.3F]] page. That debate is VASTLY more interesting than any of your "worst day / worst year" articles. Stuff on the main talk page often gets very interesting, though it isn't related to improving the main page, which is what the main talk page is supposed to be about. There's a notice at the top (placed there by me some time ago) about moving more general debates to the Community Portal. It helped a little, but not much. People should occasionally move some of the more interesting conversations on main talk out to separate articles. I would suggest that for the "how_long_before_liberalism_collapses" section. Maybe the collapse of liberalism was the originally intended topic, but it soon morphed into something way more interesting. Why don't you move that section out into a debate page? Leaving a pointer for JohnZ and everyone else? It would be very interesting. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:10, 14 February 2017 (EST)
::What would be a really useful direction for your energies would be a debate page on the subject of whether religion in the United States (or the world, if that's your preference) is increasing or decreasing. There is already a debate going on on the [[Talk:Main_Page#Now_that_liberals_are_getting_violent_and_acting_like_trapped_rats.2C_how_long_before_liberalism_collapses.3F]] page. That debate is VASTLY more interesting than any of your "worst day / worst year" articles. Stuff on the main talk page often gets very interesting, though it isn't related to improving the main page, which is what the main talk page is supposed to be about. There's a notice at the top (placed there by me some time ago) about moving more general debates to the Community Portal. It helped a little, but not much. People should occasionally move some of the more interesting conversations on main talk out to separate articles. I would suggest that for the "how_long_before_liberalism_collapses" section. Maybe the collapse of liberalism was the originally intended topic, but it soon morphed into something way more interesting. Why don't you move that section out into a debate page? Leaving a pointer for JohnZ and everyone else? It would be very interesting. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:10, 14 February 2017 (EST)
::: The ironic thing about HMS Atheism (a sister ship to SS Evolution) is that it did exist in the late 60s as a codeword for the (then) future Type 21 "Amazon" class frigate. The name would have never made it onto a real ship but an interesting bit of trivia.--[[User:AaronC1|AaronC1]] ([[User talk:AaronC1|talk]]) 12:51, 14 February 2017 (EST)
::: The ironic thing about HMS Atheism (a sister ship to SS Evolution) is that it did exist in the late 60s as a codeword for the (then) future Type 21 "Amazon" class frigate. The name would have never made it onto a real ship but an interesting bit of trivia.--[[User:AaronC1|AaronC1]] ([[User talk:AaronC1|talk]]) 12:51, 14 February 2017 (EST)
==Non-restrictive clauses and commas==
Cons: I often give you a hard time about your use or non-use of commas in delineating subordinate clauses. Well, I was just surfing around on news sites, and I came upon an article on Fox about Chris Pratt (Who's he? I don't care) and the Bible verse Philippians 4:13, given in the article with a missing comma. Sure enough, I looked it up in my KJV, and the comma is missing there too. (The Fox news article had slightly different wording, but the same missing comma.) "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me." Which Christ would that be? Is there one who strengthens Paul and through which he can do all things? And another Christ who doesn't? So of course I thought of you. :-) OK, I'll give the KJV authors a pass on this one, especially since (a) the English language was in its infancy at the time, and (b) I'm not a Biblical literalist. But I fixed the CBP translation. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 00:47, 15 February 2017 (EST)