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→As long as we're listing lies....: Hiss by contrast
Since Haggard admits his deceit, he should probably be included in the "article" :-P unless you have some objection other than the truth of the allegations.-'''<font color="#007FFF">Ames</font><font color="#FF0000">G</font>'''<sub>[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:AmesG yo!]</sub> 11:52, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
Since Haggard admits his deceit, he should probably be included in the "article" :-P unless you have some objection other than the truth of the allegations.-'''<font color="#007FFF">Ames</font><font color="#FF0000">G</font>'''<sub>[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:AmesG yo!]</sub> 11:52, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
:Yes but Haggard is a confessed deceiver, and evidently nolonger deceiving himself. There is a path of redemption and rehabilitation. Hiss by contrast, set up a foundation to institutionalize the lies. Books have been written, Haynes & Klehr's ''In Denial'' for example, about the absurd contortions supposed intellectuals twisted themselves in to, in an effort that many of themselves don't even beleive privately anymore. The late Molly Ivans said even after KGB Archives were corroborated by [[Venona]] evidence,
::''"The other curious thing about the Hiss case is the psychology of believing that Hiss was a spy, which requires abandoning much of what we know about rational thought.'' [http://homepages.nyu.edu/~th15/lowsoviet.html]
:There is no comparison. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:34, 27 April 2007 (EDT)