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::::And when that's done, it'll show that, when the votes from illegal immigrants, those who illegally voted multiple times, votes from those in prison (who forfeit their right to vote when they go to prison for their crimes) and votes from "the dead" - all of which would have voted Democrat - are removed from the equation, Hillary will have far less votes than first claimed, which will give Trump both the electoral college ''and'' the popular vote, thereby pulling the Democrats' and other detractors' last flimsy argument out from under them. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 13:46, 23 December 2016 (EST)
::::And when that's done, it'll show that, when the votes from illegal immigrants, those who illegally voted multiple times, votes from those in prison (who forfeit their right to vote when they go to prison for their crimes) and votes from "the dead" - all of which would have voted Democrat - are removed from the equation, Hillary will have far less votes than first claimed, which will give Trump both the electoral college ''and'' the popular vote, thereby pulling the Democrats' and other detractors' last flimsy argument out from under them. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 13:46, 23 December 2016 (EST)
:::::Despite being a rather stupid debate, the popular vote doesn't matter one iota, I have trouble seeing why anybody is talking about it. Russian intervention in the election is now looking like a near certainty, although it could be anything from a lot to almost nothing. I think it is tangible enough thing that we start to look a bit biased if we don't at lease mention it.
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