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Talk:Essay:Calming the Storm (view source)
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, 05:07, April 5, 2017→Statement on Translations: Substance: Your own source on λέγω contradicts you
:::August, you're not fooling anyone with your childish style. Seas don't have ears, and they cannot hear. No spoken command is implied. λέγω substantively means to "put in order, arrange, gather." [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BB%CE%AD%CE%B3%CF%89]
:::August, you're not fooling anyone with your childish style. Seas don't have ears, and they cannot hear. No spoken command is implied. λέγω substantively means to "put in order, arrange, gather." [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BB%CE%AD%CE%B3%CF%89]
:::It is a waste of time discussing these issues with you if you won't be substantive in your comments. I'm going to move on to other substantive work if you don't improve the substantive quality of your comments, and address essential points.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:36, 4 April 2017 (EDT)
:::It is a waste of time discussing these issues with you if you won't be substantive in your comments. I'm going to move on to other substantive work if you don't improve the substantive quality of your comments, and address essential points.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:36, 4 April 2017 (EDT)
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|Your own source on λέγω contradicts you: Do you remember that you at first didn't recognize that εἶπον was the aorist of λέγω? Well, as your source shows: '''For the meaning "say, speak", forms derived from other roots are more commonly used (suppletion): the future ἐρέω (eréō) and perfect εἴρηκᾰ (eírēka) from εἴρω (eírō), and the aorist εἶπον (eîpon).''' So, used in sense of "to lay down", Mark would have written ἔλεξεν, not εἶπον!
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|When the verb λέγω was used in Homer's time in the sense of "lay down", it was used transitively, i.e., you would read καὶ εἶπεν τὴν θάλασσαν. But we read καὶ εἶπεν τῇ θαλάσσῃ - the dative. So, the '''insight doesn't work grammatically'''.
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::::--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 01:07, 5 April 2017 (EDT)