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:::The main stream media engages in biased reporting, not fake news. The question of whether or not main stream media engages in fake news is not central to the definition. The problem I had with the article as it existed 24 hours ago is that it is not clearly written and leave the reader confused about what fake news is or is not. Thanks [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:43, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
:::The main stream media engages in biased reporting, not fake news. The question of whether or not main stream media engages in fake news is not central to the definition. The problem I had with the article as it existed 24 hours ago is that it is not clearly written and leave the reader confused about what fake news is or is not. Thanks [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:43, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
::::The mainstream media does promote fake news -- promoting false "facts" and interpretations. The difference between biased reporting and fake news is not as clear-cut as you might think. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:50, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
::::The mainstream media does promote fake news -- promoting false "facts" and interpretations. The difference between biased reporting and fake news is not as clear-cut as you might think. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:50, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
::::Let's separate what is fake news from how it spreads. For example, a fake news website starts an outrageous "news" story. Because it is clearly not true, nobody should believe it or repeat it. However, some people share it on social media, and rarely, a lazy reporter will [http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/07/breitbart-duped-by-fake-news-again/ pick it up in the mainstream media without properly vetting the source.] More frequently, a fake news site like "Newswatch33" is designed to look like a mainstream media TV news site. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 12:15, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
:::(edit conflict) @DavidB4: Fair enough, but I think JDano's changes were too drastic. He removed pretty much all mention of Trump from the intro (while at the same time inserting a mention of "Russian interference" in the intro (possible POV issue as well there). He also moved some paragraphs well-suited for the intro. He also un-bolded very good evidence that fake news mainly comes from liberals. If someone wants to make changes, please keep these points in mind. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:47, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
:::(edit conflict) @DavidB4: Fair enough, but I think JDano's changes were too drastic. He removed pretty much all mention of Trump from the intro (while at the same time inserting a mention of "Russian interference" in the intro (possible POV issue as well there). He also moved some paragraphs well-suited for the intro. He also un-bolded very good evidence that fake news mainly comes from liberals. If someone wants to make changes, please keep these points in mind. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:47, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
:1) Use of bold italic in that manner is not consistent with our style manual. I can see it used for exceptionally important points in very long articles or to put one or two words in bold for clarity, but this particular use comes across a desperate and not persuasive.
:1) Use of bold italic in that manner is not consistent with our style manual. I can see it used for exceptionally important points in very long articles or to put one or two words in bold for clarity, but this particular use comes across a desperate and not persuasive.
:2) The largest fabricators of fake news have been the Russians. Many fake news IP addresses resolve to Russia. As we note, this was a documented problem with the Netherlands elections before the 2016 US elections.[[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 12:06, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
:2) The largest fabricators of fake news have been the Russians. Many fake news IP addresses resolve to Russia. As we note, this was a documented problem with the Netherlands elections before the 2016 US elections.[[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 12:06, 5 April 2017 (EDT)