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Talk:Barack Obama Controversies (view source)
Revision as of 21:40, April 16, 2017
, 21:40, April 16, 2017→British surveillance
:::::::Yes, open discussion of this program, which is ''intended'' to circumvent and violate a citizens civil rights on both sides of the Atlantic, and is the ''only'' reason it exists, can threaten a news gathering organization's ongoing relationship with government agencies whom they really are dependent on for their bread and butter-information and news. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]]</sup> 10:04, 24 March 2017 (EDT)
:::::::Yes, open discussion of this program, which is ''intended'' to circumvent and violate a citizens civil rights on both sides of the Atlantic, and is the ''only'' reason it exists, can threaten a news gathering organization's ongoing relationship with government agencies whom they really are dependent on for their bread and butter-information and news. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]]</sup> 10:04, 24 March 2017 (EDT)
::::::::Napolitano vindicated: "[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia]." He's back on Fox, too. Is it a scandal for the U.S. president to use British intelligence to spy on Republicans? The MSM doesn't seem to think so. If it's this easy to dodge FISA, what's the point of the law? Bill Clinton showed that the independent counsel statute could never be enforced against Democrats. Now it's expired. FISA should be put in the same category. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 05:14, 16 April 2017 (EDT)
::::::::Napolitano vindicated: "[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia]." He's back on Fox, too. Is it a scandal for the U.S. president to use British intelligence to spy on Republicans? The MSM doesn't seem to think so. If it's this easy to dodge FISA, what's the point of the law? Bill Clinton showed that the independent counsel statute could never be enforced against Democrats. Now it's expired. FISA should be put in the same category. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 05:14, 16 April 2017 (EDT)
:::::::::Napolitano is indeed vindicated, yet that headline ''still'' is deceptive: "British spies were the first", but when you delve into the article, they weren't the first. The information came from a Baltic intelligence sharing agreement. Presumably, the headline is intended to mask further facts.
::::::::::What is unclear is, was Brennan handed unadultered intel from the Baltics (rumored to be Estonia), or did he get it laundered thru GCHQ, or did he recieve both reports, Estonia's and GCHQ. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]]</sup> 17:40, 16 April 2017 (EDT)
==Legal status==
==Legal status==
Under any provision of the law, including cooperative sharing, the legal status can only be justified as part of a foreign intelligence surveillance operation, or terrorist or narcotics trafficing. Somewhere the term "foreign" should be inserted, cause Obama is specifically forbidden from domestic political spying. Even if Obama learned later an administration agency was involved in that activity, and failed to intervene, he and all his cohorts would be in a world of trouble. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]]</sup> 12:48, 24 March 2017 (EDT)
Under any provision of the law, including cooperative sharing, the legal status can only be justified as part of a foreign intelligence surveillance operation, or terrorist or narcotics trafficing. Somewhere the term "foreign" should be inserted, cause Obama is specifically forbidden from domestic political spying. Even if Obama learned later an administration agency was involved in that activity, and failed to intervene, he and all his cohorts would be in a world of trouble. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]]</sup> 12:48, 24 March 2017 (EDT)