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→Harry Hay: it is absoltulely clear that NAMBLA does much more than advocate issues of "sexual freedom"
:::You're still mixing apples and oranges. Harry Hay is the Rosa Parks of gay liberation, and you are discussing something entirely different. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:19, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
:::You're still mixing apples and oranges. Harry Hay is the Rosa Parks of gay liberation, and you are discussing something entirely different. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:19, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
::::How is it entirely different? Pelosi appears in the same parade as a guy who's a gay liberation forefather and NAMBLA supporter (though not a member). Giuliani appears in a parade with a whole bunch of ''actual'' NAMBLA members, and joins up and hangs out repeatedly and proudly with a whole ''crowd'' of gay lib founders/activists (the Malcolm X's of the movement, if you will), and even rides on their float to lead the parade, and becomes an official member of their group to boot. If anything, Rudy's transgression (if we can call it that) is worse than Pelosi's...--[[User:WJThomas|WJThomas]] 13:34, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
::::How is it entirely different? Pelosi appears in the same parade as a guy who's a gay liberation forefather and NAMBLA supporter (though not a member). Giuliani appears in a parade with a whole bunch of ''actual'' NAMBLA members, and joins up and hangs out repeatedly and proudly with a whole ''crowd'' of gay lib founders/activists (the Malcolm X's of the movement, if you will), and even rides on their float to lead the parade, and becomes an official member of their group to boot. If anything, Rudy's transgression (if we can call it that) is worse than Pelosi's...--[[User:WJThomas|WJThomas]] 13:34, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::We don't know if Hay is a member or not. If NAMBLA has a whole series of his material on their website, who is in what position to who here? The history shows there would be no NAMBLA, i.e., an above ground organized movement, or as CPUSA members call it, the "open party" engaged in organizational an politcal activity. And it is absoltulely clear that NAMBLA does much more than advocate issues of "sexual freedom". [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:57, 28 April 2007 (EDT)