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:::Since words have no meaning - a basic liberal tenet - I don't understand why liberals are so emotionally attached to the word 'liberal'. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]} 12:43, 8 May 2017 (EDT)

:::Since words have no meaning - a basic liberal tenet - I don't understand why liberals are so emotionally attached to the word 'liberal'. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]} 12:43, 8 May 2017 (EDT)

::::Two points: The left does practice forced labor. See: [[Atheism and forced labor]] 2) I'm offended isn't an argument. The left is constantly crying out "I'm offended" as if it is some type of argument. At this juncture, conservatives could care less if liberals are offended. The internet is quite large. If your offended, I suggest crawling into your liberal cocoon so you are not offended by contrary views. The reason why liberals cry "I'm offended" so frequently is that they cannot or will not form legitimate arguments. In short, they are incompetent/dishonest.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:13, 8 May 2017 (EDT)

::::Two points: The left does practice forced labor. See: [[Atheism and forced labor]] 2) I'm offended isn't an argument. The left is constantly crying out "I'm offended" as if it is some type of argument. At this juncture, conservatives could care less if liberals are offended. The internet is quite large. If your offended, I suggest crawling into your liberal cocoon so you are not offended by contrary views. The reason why liberals cry "I'm offended" so frequently is that they cannot or will not form legitimate arguments. In short, they are incompetent/dishonest.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:13, 8 May 2017 (EDT)

:::::Pardon me for being offended that you paint me as supporting genocide and murder. Nobs, it's true that words have no inherent meaning - but this doesn't mean that they have no meaning at all. No inherent meaning means that the marks we put on paper don't have meaning in and of themselves. If they did, you and I would be able to read Japanese without problem. It's the configurations that we put those marks in and the things we're taught in life that give the marks meaning. It is also important to note that not all words mean the same things to the same people. In this sense, words have no meaning as well. For instance, you would say the verb 'revise' means 'to clean up and make better', like revisions to a paper. To me, the verb 'revise' is means 'to study'. These are differences between American and British English. Revise has no meaning per se, but the culture we come from gives the words meaning. Make sense? Even the phrase 'per se' there probably has different meanings to you and I.

:::::Pardon me for being offended that you paint me as supporting genocide and murder. Nobs, it's true that words have no inherent meaning - but this doesn't mean that they have no meaning at all. No inherent meaning means that the marks we put on paper don't have meaning in and of themselves. If they did, you and I would be able to read Japanese without problem. It's the configurations that we put those marks in and the things we're taught in life that give the marks meaning. It is also important to note that not all words mean the same things to the same people. In this sense, words have no meaning as well. For instance, you would say the verb 'revise' means 'to clean up and make better', like revisions to a paper. To me, the verb 'revise' means 'to study'. These are differences between American and British English. Revise has no meaning per se, but the culture we come from gives the words meaning. Make sense? Even the phrase 'per se' there probably has different meanings to you and I.

::::::I agree completely. For example, I just discovered "humanitarian" to Barack Obama means "behead Christians" to me, or "responsibility to protect civilians" to Hillary Clinton means "arm and equip ISIS" to everybody else. That's what this article attempts to do, clarify meanings. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]} 17:54, 8 May 2017 (EDT)

::::::I agree completely. For example, I just discovered "humanitarian" to Barack Obama means "behead Christians" to me, or "responsibility to protect civilians" to Hillary Clinton means "arm and equip ISIS" to everybody else. That's what this article attempts to do, clarify meanings. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]} 17:54, 8 May 2017 (EDT)