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| | :I agree. Obama's life from the earliest we've got to know him is one big long deception. There is nothing special, unique, or shocking to this. Millions live their lives like this daily. He's not even a leader. In a sense, I feel sorry for him. He's been used as little more than pawn by Democratic donors and globalists. He probably only got the job ''because'' his middle name was Hussein, to push the multi-cuktural agenda. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 01:05, 26 May 2017 (EDT) | | :I agree. Obama's life from the earliest we've got to know him is one big long deception. There is nothing special, unique, or shocking to this. Millions live their lives like this daily. He's not even a leader. In a sense, I feel sorry for him. He's been used as little more than pawn by Democratic donors and globalists. He probably only got the job ''because'' his middle name was Hussein, to push the multi-cuktural agenda. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 01:05, 26 May 2017 (EDT) |
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| | We have to separate our opinions about Obama in general from our opinions about Conservapedia's goals. Every website has a finite reservoir of credibility. It may be that due to hard work and exhaustive research, CP has a better-than-the-pack coverage of Wikipedia bias or CIA surveillance. We should showcase our best work. However, Donald Trump (before he became politically active), decided to investigate the birth certificate and religion claims '''that were started by Obama's 2008 primary opponents.''' He spent more money on the investigation than CP ever had. Then-candidate Trump announced that his investigation put the birth certificate and Muslim issues to rest.[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/16/trump-clinton-trade-barbs-over-obama-birther-movement.html] CP's response to that was to leave the [[Obama's religion]] article unchanged. This article could examine how the rumors got started, how Trump and others investigated and dismissed the claims, how Obama addressed the claims and put them to rest, and how polling data shows that the pubic can be influenced by fake news. Instead, it is written as if it advocates the proposition followed by a rebuttal of the strawman assertions made in the first half of the article. Critics then send readers here to show that CP's editor corps are internally conflicted and mislead by fake news. So, we spend our limited credibility on a poorly-written article that has been passed by events. In Trump's word, "Now we all want to get back to make American strong and great again." [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 05:23, 26 May 2017 (EDT) | | We have to separate our opinions about Obama in general from our opinions about Conservapedia's goals. Every website has a finite reservoir of credibility. It may be that due to hard work and exhaustive research, CP has a better-than-the-pack coverage of Wikipedia bias or CIA surveillance. We should showcase our best work. However, Donald Trump (before he became politically active), decided to investigate the birth certificate and religion claims '''that were started by Obama's 2008 primary opponents.''' He spent more money on the investigation than CP ever had. Then-candidate Trump announced that his investigation put the birth certificate and Muslim issues to rest.[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/16/trump-clinton-trade-barbs-over-obama-birther-movement.html] CP's response to that was to leave the [[Obama's religion]] article unchanged. This article could examine how the rumors got started, how Trump and others investigated and dismissed the claims, how Obama addressed the claims and put them to rest, and how polling data shows that the pubic can be influenced by fake news. Instead, it is written as if it advocates the proposition followed by a rebuttal of the strawman assertions made in the first half of the article. Critics then send readers here to show that CP's editor corps are internally conflicted and mislead by fake news. So, we spend our limited credibility on a poorly-written article that has been passed by events. In Trump's word, "Now we all want to get back to make American strong and great again." [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 05:23, 26 May 2017 (EDT) |
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| | ::RobS, previously I merely fired off my starboard evidential cannons that Obama may be an adherent of [[liberal Christianity]]. Today, I fired off the port evidential cannons indicating he may be a closet atheist or closet agnostic. Today, the steamship "SS Obama is a Muslim according to Conservapedia" was scuttled. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) | | ::RobS, previously I merely fired off my starboard evidential cannons that Obama may be an adherent of [[liberal Christianity]]. Today, I fired off the port evidential cannons indicating he may be a closet atheist or closet agnostic. Today, the steamship "SS Obama is a Muslim according to Conservapedia" was scuttled. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) |
| | :::IMO, he's a secular gay Muslim, which borders on agnosticism/atheism. I believe he is hostile to Christians, and prejudiced or disposed to favoring Islamic culture (which is predominantly a secular culture) he identifies with, moreso than American culture or Islam. What he knows of Christianity, undoubtably he learned in adulthood, and not voluntarily. It was the result of his relationship with his domestic partner. The central significance of the Christian Church in African-American communities is totally alien to his upbringing and attitudes, and remains so. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 12:50, 26 May 2017 (EDT) | | :::IMO, he's a secular gay Muslim, which borders on agnosticism/atheism. I believe he is hostile to Christians, and prejudiced or disposed to favoring Islamic culture (which is predominantly a secular culture) he identifies with, moreso than American culture or Islam. What he knows of Christianity, undoubtably he learned in adulthood, and not voluntarily. It was the result of his relationship with his domestic partner. The central significance of the Christian Church in African-American communities is totally alien to his upbringing and attitudes, and remains so. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 12:50, 26 May 2017 (EDT) |
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| | + | This entry stirs strong emotions. Some might resist the notion that one's religious beliefs are not really what says they are. It's an unsettling insight, but it's plainly true. If one claimed to be the greatest fill-in-the-blank, few would believe him. If a politician makes a self-serving claim to believe in fill-in-the-blank, one should be equally skeptical. |
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| | + | As to Obama's refusal to attend Christian funerals of prominent political figures like a Supreme Court Justice and a former First Lady, it does suggest he disfavors attending Christian funerals. That is a key data point explained by Islamic doctrine. An atheist would not have such reluctance.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 21:32, 26 May 2017 (EDT) |