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[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]]
[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]]
:Okay, so point me to the observations that show, for example, that the decay rates have ''never'' changed. You can't because nobody has been around for that 4.5 billion years to make those observations. Secondly, despite your claims, there are plenty of examples where things ''haven't'' worked exactly the way that scientists predict. For example, wood embedded in basalt gave an age of around 40,000 years for the wood, but around 40,000,000 years for the basalt, but they were clearly the same age.[http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/731] [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:58, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
:Okay, so point me to the observations that show, for example, that the decay rates have ''never'' changed. You can't because nobody has been around for that 4.5 billion years to make those observations. Secondly, despite your claims, there are plenty of examples where things ''haven't'' worked exactly the way that scientists predict. For example, wood embedded in basalt gave an age of around 40,000 years for the wood, but around 40,000,000 years for the basalt, but they were clearly the same age.[http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/731] [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:58, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
Because the laws of physics would have to change in order to change decay rates, no, we can't be 100% certain that God didn't change the mass of neutrino and quark particles at sometime, just as we can't be 100% certain that Marduk didn't create the world out of the corpse of the heavenly snake Tiamat.
Proposing that the laws of physics would have been changed is pure speculation, scientists tend to stick with what they know.
Do you blame God when you lose your car keys, or do you try to retrace your steps?
As for inaccurate dating, it does happen on occasion, in this case it probably happened because you'll need carbon dating (0 - 60.000 years) for the wood and potassium-argon dating (100.000 - billions of years) for the rock, because rocks don't contain carbon and wood doesn't contain potassium or argon, no matter what the age of the fossil is, there is no way these two measurements will ever correspond: this case worked out exactly as could have been predicted by decay rates.
[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]]
==Feathers==
==Feathers==
I find it odd that one of the tenants on which CP was founded was the unreliability of wikipedia, yet a reference to an article there is used. Surely in the YECs attempt to prove evolution wrong you can do better (and by better I mean not AiG). [[User:Jrssr5|Jrssr5]] 14:52, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
I find it odd that one of the tenants on which CP was founded was the unreliability of wikipedia, yet a reference to an article there is used. Surely in the YECs attempt to prove evolution wrong you can do better (and by better I mean not AiG). [[User:Jrssr5|Jrssr5]] 14:52, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
:I wondered the same thing about the Wikipedia reference, although I did leave it there and improve it (the footnote). What's wrong with the AiG reference? (AiG is off-line at the moment, so I can't see the article to reference is to.) [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 01:04, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
:I wondered the same thing about the Wikipedia reference, although I did leave it there and improve it (the footnote). What's wrong with the AiG reference? (AiG is off-line at the moment, so I can't see the article to reference is to.) [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 01:04, 28 April 2007 (EDT)