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==Conflicts==
==Conflicts==
===National vs State Government===
===National vs State Government===
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In general, many of the Founders preferred local [[Self-government]] and quite often referred to the new government they were forming as a "general government" instead of a "national government".<ref>The phrase "general government" appears in the transcript of Madison's Notes of the convention 34 times, and "national government" is explicitly struck out twice.</ref>
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In general, many of the Founders preferred local [[Self-government]], and during the debates quite often referred to the new government they were forming as a "general government" instead of a "national government".<ref>The phrase "general government" appears in the transcript of Madison's Notes of the convention 34 times, and "national government" is explicitly struck out twice.</ref>
====Nationalists====
====Nationalists====
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These delegates, notably Hamilton, wished to see most power in a central government, at the expense of the states.
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Other delegates, notably Hamilton, wished to see most power in a centralized government, at the expense of the states. The Hamilton Plan, a plan which was not even debated when it was proposed, was viewed by the delegates as outright abolishing the states altogether into one nationalized governmental body. First proposed in a long dissertation on June 18th, Hamilton returned the following day and stated the following:
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<blockquote>Col. HAMILTON coincided with the proposition as it stood in the Report. He had not been understood yesterday. By an abolition of the States, he meant that no boundary could be drawn between the National & State Legislatures; that the former must therefore have indefinite authority. If it were limited at all, the rivalship of the States would gradually subvert it. Even as Corporations the extent of some of them as Virginia, Massachusetts, etc. would be formidable. As States, he thought they ought to be abolished. But he admitted the necessity of leaving in them, subordinate jurisdictions.<ref>[http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_619.asp Madison Debates, June 19]</ref></blockquote>