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::::Fair enough. I think the point is that Europeans - particularly Britain, France and Holland - were just the "''best''" at it. And as Rob Pommer said, Europeans colonised in the name of the state or the ruler - much like the Chinese or the Japanese.--[[User:Olly|Olly]] 17:23, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
::::Fair enough. I think the point is that Europeans - particularly Britain, France and Holland - were just the "''best''" at it. And as Rob Pommer said, Europeans colonised in the name of the state or the ruler - much like the Chinese or the Japanese.--[[User:Olly|Olly]] 17:23, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
::Im pretty sure we think the same thing. I have nothing against islam, i just mentioned it because of the Ottoman Empires name recognition and familiarity.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
::Im pretty sure we think the same thing. I have nothing against islam, i just mentioned it because of the Ottoman Empires name recognition and familiarity.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
:::Yeah Ok but then why not talk about Ottoman imperialism rather than Islamic? Personally I *do* have something against Islam, but the imperialism of Islam is not as important or far-reaching as that of Britain in particular, nor is it more important or far-reaching than that of many other cultures or "nations". I apologise for accusing you of anti-Islamism but you can see my point.--[[User:Olly|Olly]] 17:33, 1 May 2007 (EDT)