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::Im pretty sure we think the same thing.  I have nothing against islam, i just mentioned it because of the Ottoman Empires name recognition and familiarity.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
 
::Im pretty sure we think the same thing.  I have nothing against islam, i just mentioned it because of the Ottoman Empires name recognition and familiarity.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
 
:::Yeah Ok but then why not talk about Ottoman imperialism rather than Islamic?  Personally I *do* have something against Islam, but the imperialism of Islam is not as important or far-reaching as that of Britain in particular, nor is it more important or far-reaching than that of many other cultures or "nations".  I apologise for accusing you of anti-Islamism but you can see my point.--[[User:Olly|Olly]] 17:33, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::Yeah Ok but then why not talk about Ottoman imperialism rather than Islamic?  Personally I *do* have something against Islam, but the imperialism of Islam is not as important or far-reaching as that of Britain in particular, nor is it more important or far-reaching than that of many other cultures or "nations".  I apologise for accusing you of anti-Islamism but you can see my point.--[[User:Olly|Olly]] 17:33, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
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:::::alright. i admit my mistake. i misspoke. i really wasnt talking about what is viewed as modern day islamic imperialsim.  i was thinking more about the battle of tours and the seige of vienna.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]
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:::::alright. i admit my mistake. i misspoke. I see your point.  fine leave the article as is.  I cant really argue can I?  after all "the sun never set on the British empire" (this is a real quote, no?)[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]].
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