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Line 652: − Didn't Conservative suggest the man in the picture was a cowardly unionized firefighter. Most of the firefighters on 9/11 were unionized and they rushed into those buildings knowing fine well that the odds of them coming out alive were slim. Horribly disrespectful.--[[User:RSturmer|RSturmer]] ([[User talk:RSturmer|talk]]) 12:55, 27 February 2018 (EST)+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Oh dear. I go away for a couple of days, and look what happens.
[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:35, 27 February 2018 (EST)
[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:35, 27 February 2018 (EST)
::Didn't Conservative suggest the man in the picture was a cowardly unionized firefighter. Most of the firefighters on 9/11 were unionized and they rushed into those buildings knowing fine well that the odds of them coming out alive were slim. Horribly disrespectful.--[[User:RSturmer|RSturmer]] ([[User talk:RSturmer|talk]]) 12:55, 27 February 2018 (EST)
:The global market share of atheist has generally been declining since 1970 (see: [[Global atheism statistics]]). So atheism has burned from 2015-2017. Please don't post counter factual rubbish/contentions on your talk page. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])
:The global market share of atheist has generally been declining since 1970 (see: [[Global atheism statistics]]). So atheism has burned from 2015-2017. Please don't post counter factual rubbish/contentions on your talk page. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])
:::::Again, Assistant SysOps are not allowed by the rules to block longstanding membersto resolve disputes--I agree with JoeyJ's response. That said, edit warring is also unproductive, and making essay versions of CP articles has already been discussed and generally disapproved of. (Yes, I know, I just used a trailing preposition....)
:::::Again, Assistant SysOps are not allowed by the rules to block longstanding membersto resolve disputes--I agree with JoeyJ's response. That said, edit warring is also unproductive, and making essay versions of CP articles has already been discussed and generally disapproved of. (Yes, I know, I just used a trailing preposition....)
:::::I do see the differences between these two (listed here: https://www.diffchecker.com/49fnIo4C), but in the long run, do they make that much of a difference? Can't we let the reader decide what view to take? I don't trust Putin either, but the fact these people are using obscene activities to convey their message still stands. Perhaps focusing on them and their activities rather than Putin's is the best idea? {{unsigned|DavidB4}}
:::::I do see the differences between these two (listed here: https://www.diffchecker.com/49fnIo4C), but in the long run, do they make that much of a difference? Can't we let the reader decide what view to take? I don't trust Putin either, but the fact these people are using obscene activities to convey their message still stands. Perhaps focusing on them and their activities rather than Putin's is the best idea? {{unsigned|DavidB4}}
==Northwest and Pussy Riot==
User Northwest seems to have a spectacular disdain for me. This can be seen in many things he has written in a number of places, most notably here on this talk page, and on the [[Pussy Riot]] article and talk page. A particularly noteworthy case of this can be seen in the "not impressed" section above, where he takes me to task for copying material from another template (something that people do all the time) to accuse me of lacking originality, claiming that all liberals do the same, and comparing me to Marx, Lenin and Goebbels.
He also says, in the "You're Cool" section above, that my having been blocked 19 (now 20) times shows misbehavior. A few things:
*I have been here much longer than Northwest, and most of those blocks were before his time. He knows nothing about the circumstances.
*Other than a few that naturally expired, all of those blocks were later rescinded, either by the blocking party directly, or by being countermanded by an admin.
*One of those blocks was by someone who was later unmasked as a parodist.
*One of those blocks was for a completely bogus accusation of being a sock of AlanS, whom I never knew. (That incident has led me to have no confidence in the process of identifying sock accounts.)
As far as I know, I am respected at least to some extent by virtually everyone that I have had contact with here at Conservapedia. Even someone who had earlier gotten the wrong impressions and blocked me. I have had my work praised by a number of admins, ''including the site owner''. So I do not know why Northwest takes such a strong attitude against me. I have mostly ignored him, but the Pussy Riot issue did not admit a solution other than making an "essay" alternative article.
I agree with DavidB4 that having an alternative "essay" article is not a good idea. I only did that because Northwest's insistence that only "leftists" and "Social Justice Warriors" (SJW's) oppose murderous thug Putin. I simply could not stand for that implication.
In further response to DavidB4, yes, these people use obscene activities (I've seen the youtube videos; some of them are appalling). But the article is almost entirely focused on them and their activities. There is only a small portion about the international protest of Putin regarding their imprisonment and pardon. That is a small, but nevertheless important, part of the article. The protests in support of Pussy Riot were an international phenomenon, and was not limited to leftists and SJW's.
I would have no problem with getting rid of the essay (it was admittedly picayune, and the change was extremely minor) if it were permitted to mention the international protests. We would either have to have the article locked by an admin (this has been done on several other articles that were subject to edit warring) or we would need a clear statement from Northwest that the article reflect a consensus of the Conservapedia community.
[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 00:38, 28 February 2018 (EST)
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