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:The only reason (in the U.S.) why liberals have not succeeded in banning guns is because guns are popular among regular people, and the Second Amendment prohibits them from enacting a complete ban. Fun fact: in 2008, the Supreme Court was '''one vote away''' from making it constitutional to enact complete handgun bans and effectively eliminate the Second Amendment (see [[D.C. v. Heller]]). Some municipal bans on possessing handguns were only struck down in 2010 (see [[McDonald v. Chicago]]). The courts and the people oppose the liberals, so they have to proceed slowly. I'm sure the situation is similar in Europe, even though gun control is more popular and the gun laws more strict. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 22 April 2017 (EDT)
:The only reason (in the U.S.) why liberals have not succeeded in banning guns is because guns are popular among regular people, and the Second Amendment prohibits them from enacting a complete ban. Fun fact: in 2008, the Supreme Court was '''one vote away''' from making it constitutional to enact complete handgun bans and effectively eliminate the Second Amendment (see [[D.C. v. Heller]]). Some municipal bans on possessing handguns were only struck down in 2010 (see [[McDonald v. Chicago]]). The courts and the people oppose the liberals, so they have to proceed slowly. I'm sure the situation is similar in Europe, even though gun control is more popular and the gun laws more strict. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 22 April 2017 (EDT)
:::We need to be as factual as possible. There are liberals and conservatives, Republicans and Democrats, etc. on '''both''' sides of this very complicated issue. A gun control law can be designed to prevent insane people or young children from accessing guns without eliminating all self-defense weapons. The article needs a complete rewrite to highlight the current set of controversies, and it is very out-of-date. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 18:49, 14 July 2017 (EDT)
:::We need to be as factual as possible. There are liberals and conservatives, Republicans and Democrats, etc. on '''both''' sides of this very complicated issue. A gun control law can be designed to prevent insane people or young children from accessing guns without eliminating all self-defense weapons. The article needs a complete rewrite to highlight the current set of controversies, and it is very out-of-date. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 18:49, 14 July 2017 (EDT)
== Some statistics ==
Contrary to what you might think from the news media, murders involving guns are statistically quite low in the U.S. Here are the numbers from 2015, when we had an Obama paradise, for example:<br />
'''Causes of death in the U.S.'''<br />
Heart disease - 633,842<ref name="CDC causes of death 2015">https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm</ref><br />
Cancer - 595,930<ref name="CDC causes of death 2015">https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm</ref><br />
Chronic lower respiratory diseases - 155,041<ref name="CDC causes of death 2015">https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm</ref><br />
Automotive accidents - 146,571<ref name="CDC causes of death 2015">https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm</ref><br />
Stroke - 140,323<ref name="CDC causes of death 2015">https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm</ref><br />
Diabetes - 79,535<ref name="CDC causes of death 2015">https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm</ref><br />
Suicide - 44,193<ref name="CDC causes of death 2015">https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm</ref><br />
Shot (homicide) - 13,521<ref>http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls</ref><br />
I could turn this into a graph if people want it, but we seem to be a bit low on image space on this page already. Of course, this is not to minimize the number of deaths. Even one murder is too many, though we all know that it is impossible to eliminate murder this side of the grave. It is also true that if they done have guns, they'll use knives and other weapons.<br />
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On a side note, I found this BBC article interesting: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34996604<br />
They provide a graph on homicide in a few different countries, and show how many of these *involved* guns. Since they are ignoring population, it looks like the U.S. has a real problem. However, if you consider the size and population density of the U.S., those numbers change a bit. It's another obvious example of selective reporting used to push a false idea. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 14:42, 29 March 2018 (EDT)