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:I agree. Two of the four paragraphs in the lead are pretty much ''post hoc ergo proper hoc'', and that kind of false liberal reasoning has no place here. I struck them and relocated the little bit that was not full of fallacies to the medicinal part of the entry. As for the harm to innocent people, I have no doubt that marijuana causes this, but I believe the adverse effects section would be a better place in which to cover that. The paragraph can't stand on its own with just ''post hoc''.--[[User:Pious|Pious]] ([[User talk:Pious|talk]]) 00:50, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
:I agree. Two of the four paragraphs in the lead are pretty much ''post hoc ergo proper hoc'', and that kind of false liberal reasoning has no place here. I struck them and relocated the little bit that was not full of fallacies to the medicinal part of the entry. As for the harm to innocent people, I have no doubt that marijuana causes this, but I believe the adverse effects section would be a better place in which to cover that. The paragraph can't stand on its own with just ''post hoc''.--[[User:Pious|Pious]] ([[User talk:Pious|talk]]) 00:50, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
::I see that Northwest [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Marijuana&curid=7524&diff=1412346&oldid=1412214 reverted] (without any explanation). I'm not very interested in the content, so I won't take sides (at least for now), but both of you should discuss this. I will say, however, that the sources don't seem unreliable, so maybe the content can just be moved further down? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:33, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
::I see that Northwest [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Marijuana&curid=7524&diff=1412346&oldid=1412214 reverted] (without any explanation). I'm not very interested in the content, so I won't take sides (at least for now), but both of you should discuss this. I will say, however, that the sources don't seem unreliable, so maybe the content can just be moved further down? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:33, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
:::Hello '''Northwest''', you didnt' provide an edit summary, so can you let us know where we're off here? The passage about cancer, as noted, has a liberal wishy-washy "maybe this, maybe that" and fails to cite appropriate medical literature. And the passage about murders makes a broad statement and then over-focuses on one fringe example without even a clear connection made. Inarguably we can find some documentation of crimes and accidents caused under the ''influence'' of marijuana (the point at hand) so we weaken our argument by supporting a broad sweep with a sole example, particularly given that the terrorist's motivation was Islamism, when we could easily find better examples of killers operating under marijuana-influenced psychosis. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. [[User:DavidLReyes|DavidLReyes]] ([[User talk:DavidLReyes|talk]]) 21:26, 4 April 2018 (EDT)