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:I wonder how this compares to the March for Life each year (which has a lot of church or KofC-supported attendance). [[User:GregG|GregG]] ([[User talk:GregG|talk]]) 13:30, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
:I wonder how this compares to the March for Life each year (which has a lot of church or KofC-supported attendance). [[User:GregG|GregG]] ([[User talk:GregG|talk]]) 13:30, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
::To MarkAl: your post on Karajou's talk page aptly describes yourself. Leftists love to call people they disagree with "hateful", "bigots", etc., but they show themselves through their comments/actions to be what they claim to rant against. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:09, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
::To MarkAl: your post on Karajou's talk page aptly describes yourself. Leftists love to call people they disagree with "hateful", "bigots", etc., but they show themselves through their comments/actions to be what they claim to rant against. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:09, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
== Mark Anthony Conditt ==
What is happening on the Main Page? After reading about Conditt, the ‘jobless slacker’, I clicked on the link the author thoughtfully provided. I was greeted by this headline, ‘Why gay marriage should be illegal’. Conditt had clearly expressed a conservative viewpoint. After reading his views on abortion, the release of a senior Al-Qaeda terrorist, and the death penalty it is clear this man expressed conservative opinions on at least four of the main issues affecting our country this decade. If attending church is a requirement to be a card carrying conservative, why didn’t the patron saint of conservatism, President Ronald Reagan, attend services on a regular basis? I just happen to notice Conditt provided links to the Drudge Report and Free Republic. Why weren’t these conservative websites used to bolster the argument Conditt was not a conservative? By the way, Conditt hadn’t updated his blog since April 2012, could it be his political views had changed over the past several years prior to killing seventeen people? Just asking.--[[User:JerodT|JerodT]] ([[User talk:JerodT|talk]]) 14:45, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
:I didn't write the MPR post, but I'll make some comments on some of your points.
:First, Conditt did not kill 17 people -- you're mixing up incidents from different states.
:Second, Ronald Reagan is not, or should not be, "the patron saint of conservatism" -- that's something that RINOs and [[token conservative]]s love to say. Reagan never challenged the bloated budgets the Democrats gave him, he gave amnesty to illegals in exchange for insignificant measures that left-wing courts later struck down, and he completely caved into the gun control lobby. Reagan is '''not''' any sort of "patron saint", and that has been common knowledge to actual conservatives for years. He's a relatively decent president, but by no means an exemplary conservative.
:Also, Drudge and Free Republic are two sources, and the guy linked to ten news sources altogether. The other eight are mainstream/leftist sources. Even Drudge has been drifting to the Left for years -- I don't consider it a consistently conservative site.
:With all of this said, in addition to the fact that this guy had no job, described himself as "not that politically inclined", and did not appear to be a practicing Christian in the time leading up to his actions (correct me if I'm wrong on that), I don't see anything wrong with the MPR post. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:11, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
::The mainstream press and liberal commentators are making it seem as if Mark Anthony Conditt is a Christian conservative. We don't know if he is a Christian. We don't know if he is a practicing Christian since the press is not reporting on his recent church attendance (The Apostle Paul said do not forsake the assembling of the saints). As far as his politics, we know that he was a "self-described conservative" six years ago who confessed he didn't have enough information to defend his views. Given that he is a young person who admitted six years ago that he didn't have enough information to defend his views, his political views could be very fluid and his political views could have changed in six years.
::Next, JerodT didn't address the issue of the liberal links that were on his blog roll.
::Lastly, is JerodT a parodist?[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:23, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
:::Nuts, I goofed, Conditt is the serial bomber, not the school killer, the mass killings in this country kind of blur together. Reagan is still considered the one true conservative to emulate according to the conservatives that count. Just ask Coulter or Hannity, though I should warn everyone to ignore their flip-flops. That being said, what you are saying about Reagan is true, except for the part about him being a decent president. Reagan had one of the most corrupt administrations since Grant. As for Conditt’s news sources, my original post pointed out how the man had conservative views about marriage, abortion, terrorists and the death penalty. I may be wrong but I think his position about these matters is hard core conservatism. As for not addressing the liberal links, I merely pointed out the original post obviously glossed over the conservative opinions this killer had about marriage, abortion, etc.--[[User:JerodT|JerodT]] ([[User talk:JerodT|talk]]) 18:08, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
Mark Anthony Conditt, the [[Austin]] bomber, in his video confession described himself as a [[psychopath]]. [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/03/23/austin-serial-bomber-self-described-psychopath-left-behind-unemotional-trail-murder/454173002/]
Given what we know about [[atheism and psychopathy]] and given that the press is not reporting on his church attendance as an adult, did Mark Anthony Conditt become an [[atheism|atheist]] before his killing spree? Did he lose control of his emotions after losing his job? See: [[Atheism and anger]] and [[Atheism and depression]] and [[Atheism and negative emotions/thoughts]] and [[List of atheist shooters and serial killers|Atheist serial killers]]
:Did the 23 year old man Mark Anthony Conditt have strong views on marriage in recent times? Did he have a fiancee or a job? As of November 2017, Austin, Texas had an unemployment rate of 3%.[https://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.tx_austin_msa.htm] It was reported that Mark Conditt lost his job. But surely if he had a good attitude and was able to work and had plans for marriage, he would have quickly replaced his job instead of focusing on being a serial bomber. By the way, see: [[Atheism and sloth]] and [[Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism|Protestant work ethic]] and [[Atheism and marriage]].[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:35, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
=== USA Today: Mark Anthony Conditt, Walked away from his faith several years ago ===
''USA Today'' on Mark Anthony Conditt, the [[Austin]] bomber, "Raised by both parents in a [[Christianity|Christian]] home, Conditt reportedly walked away from his faith several years ago."[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/03/21/who-mark-anthony-conditt-austin-serial-bomber/444738002/]
More and more the evidence is pointing to Conditt being a [[Psychopath|psychopathic]], nonreligious/irreligious, serial killer. He said he has a psychopath in his video confession in which he showed no remorse.[http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/25/austin-bomber-called-himself-psychopath-had-no-remorse-congressman-says.html] See also: [[Atheism and psychopathy]] and [[List of atheist shooters and serial killers|Atheist serial killers]]
Mark Anthony Conditt appears to have have a bitter, nonreligious/irreligious, beta male who angrily lashed out at the public in a homicidal rage rather than face/tackle his problems with the help of God.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:34, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
:Once again, atheist hopes that a serial murderer would turn out to be a young earth creationist, Christian, conservative is utterly dashed. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:49, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
== The socialist mentality: "we need to save you from yourself" ==
[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/24/gun-control-march-organizer-mocks-teens-who-disagree-need-to-protect-you-from-people-like-you-who-have-guns/ This comment] aptly illustrates the socialist/nanny state mentality these protestors (both the kids and the powerful lobbyist groups supporting them) have. When asked about the millions of young people who are responsible gun owners and who value 2nd Amendment constitutional rights, their answer is "''I say we’re marching to protect you from other people like you who have guns ... "we are running away from people like you.''"
Never mind the fact that the questioner was referring to '''responsible''' young gun owners -- they're still considered the enemy and there's no difference between them and mass shooters. To these leftists, responsible gun owners are just too dumb/backward/unenlightened to understand that they are all dangerous threats and that for their own good, they need their guns taken away from them. It's the socialist nanny state mentality: the government and liberal coastal elites know what's best for all Americans, and they need to regulate everybody's lives for their own good, even if those people don't see why it's necessary or good. The fact that millions of Americans live in a completely different culture and have completely different fundamental values is irrelevant.
It seems that every mass shooting that the media obsesses about happens in a left-wing area -- Sandy Hook, Parkland, etc. Shootings that happen in conservative areas, where people actually value the Constitution and understand that the issue is far deeper than guns -- Sutherland Springs, TX, etc. -- get a completely different reaction from the people there. People ignore this fact and act like that young socialists like David Hogg represent mainstream America (actually listen to his comments -- he's doesn't). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:50, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
:[https://twitter.com/longhawl/status/977748561462005761/photo/1 This quote by Margaret Thatcher] is very relevant to the push for gun control by these anti-Constitution socialists. And forget about the Trump-Hitler comparisons Leftists love to make -- they should focus on [[Liberal#Liberal influence in extreme ideologies (and vice-versa)|the similarities between national socialism and leftism]]. I found these to be humorous: [http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/25/david-hogg-mocked-nazi-salute-end-speech/][https://twitter.com/moonlightdimaio/status/977676544385544192/photo/1] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:39, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
::[http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/03/26/second-amendment-outdated-march-our-lives-college-protesters-gun-control Another illustration of the socialist mentality: "the Second Amendment at this time is outdated"]. God-given rights (as the founding fathers saw them) do not become outdated, as God does not change, thus no right in the Constitution can become outdated (and who decides when they are "outdated"?). But these protestors apparently follow the European/utilitarian concept of "rights" and [https://www.dailywire.com/news/28654/watch-gun-control-activist-gives-perfect-reason-ryan-saavedra# no intention] of abiding by the Constitution. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:11, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:::[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/27/retired-supreme-court-justice-stevens-says-second-amendment-should-be-repealed.html John Paul Stevens got it right]: if these protestors are ever going to achieve their demands, they'll have to outright repeal the Second Amendment. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:37, 27 March 2018 (EDT)
::::Great op-ed on Fox News today: "[http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/28/if-second-amendment-falls-our-entire-bill-rights-falls.html If the Second Amendment falls, our entire Bill of Rights falls]". Problem is, socialists ''want'' to do away with more of the Bill of Rights than just the 2nd Amendment, at least effectively. The founding fathers saw the rights in the Bill of Rights as God-given and thus irrevokable. Socialists and other leftists want government, not God, to be the guarantor of freedoms (which would then become an arbitrary concept). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:35, 28 March 2018 (EDT)
== The Children's Crusade, then and now ==
[https://hotair.com/archives/2018/03/24/revealing-scenes-march-lives/ With the rude and stupid on the march in Washington], it's worth remembering the ideas backed by youth movements have not always been the best and the brightest. This is from Runciman's account of the Children's Crusade of 1212: "At Rome Pope Innocent received them. He was moved by their piety but embarrassed by their folly. With kindly firmness he told them that they must now go home. When they grew up they should then fulfil their vows and go to fight for the Cross." The leader of the German children was named Nicholas. "Only a few stragglers found their way back next spring to the Rhineland. Nicholas was probably not amongst them. But the angry parents whose children had perished insisted on the arrest of his father, who had, it seems, encouraged the boy out of vainglory. He was taken and hanged."[http://historyguide.org/ancient/children.html] [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 18:06, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
:It's ironic that these suburbanite kids ''want'' their 2nd Amendment rights taken away from them (by raising the age to buy guns) -- they say they're too immature to know how to handle guns (many other young adults would strongly disagree). However, they're somehow mature enough to dictate our gun policy -- and not to mention (if over 18) voting rights and the death penalty? It's also interesting that these kids say nothing about the Constitution when they advocate for their socialistic policies. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:33, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
::How can any adult think that high school students leaving their classes to march around for a cause they don't understand is a good idea? That entire schools are marching together to support what is otherwise a controversial view sets a totalitarian precedent. Unlike his medieval predecessor, today's pope is not acting as a voice of reason, but siding with the child marchers, or at least that's what [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-religion-easter-pope-palmsunday/keep-shouting-dont-become-anesthetized-pope-tells-young-people-idUSKBN1H10E3 this Reuters' story] suggests. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 01:00, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:::Unlike the kids in 1212, the kids today are only puppets -- tools of the gun control lobby we've been hearing about for decades: [http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/26/big-hollywood-backed-staged-student-inspired-gun-safety-march.html][https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/28567-leaked-audio-anti-gun-giffords-foundation-behind-student-led-march-for-our-lives] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:16, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
== The end of school discipline quotas? ==
The racial discipline quotas that prevented the school from taking any action against Zachary Cruz, the Broward County killer, are being reconsidered: "[https://nypost.com/2018/03/24/trump-scrapping-obama-era-rule-that-turned-schools-into-war-zones/ Trump might scrap Obama-era rule that turned schools into ‘war zones’]." [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 02:14, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:Thank you, Peter. Ann Coulter had something to say about [http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-03-14.html that:]
::On CBS's "60 Minutes" Sunday night, Lesley Stahl asked Education Secretary Betsy DeVos about the "institutional racism" in school discipline.
::It was like neither of them had ever heard of Nikolas Cruz. The Parkland, Florida, school shooter is our most recent case study of what happens when liberals start babbling about "institutional racism."
::There's never been such an incredible paper trail as there is with Cruz, leading straight from idiotic liberal ideas directly to mass murder. We know that Broward County Public Schools knew about Cruz's felonies. We know that his behavior wasn't reported because it would negatively impact the record of a student of color. The school district bragged about the policy.
::Perhaps having no criminal record would have helped Cruz get a good job someday. But it is a fact that one of the consequences of not reporting his crimes was that HE COULD GET A GUN.
:[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 07:15, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
==Anglophobia==
What is it with all the UK hate people? In the time that 100s of girls have been raped in The UK countless 1000s of kids have been murdered by guns in The USA. How about you put your own house in order before you start vilifying others.--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 20:11, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:Then again you people thrive off phobias. Anglophobia, Islamophobia, Liberalphobia, every one who does not fall in step precisely with you phobia. is it hatred or fear? I guess both.--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 20:15, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::Deny Britain has been in marked decline since its embrace of [[Darwinism]] and lose all credibility![[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:17, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::::::I deny it. Have any of you ever read Terry's Quora page. In it he virtually says he will commit murder if the law is changed to his dislike. Nice man. Credibility indeed--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 20:18, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:::::::Conservative, I am Mercian. You have admitted that I have credibility and we both gained a begrudged respect for each other, or so i thought.--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 20:21, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::::::::Before we "embraced Darwinism" my country allowed millions of Irish to starve on more than one occasion, oppressed people throughout the world, did not allow women to vote and was a major player in the slave trade. Since we have "embraced Darwinism" we stood alone against the greatest threat free people have ever experienced. Tell me we are worse now.--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 20:26, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::PS Conservative, the person most responsible for the decline of the British Empire was Harry Truman. He was prepared to allow Britain to starve and go broke when he rebuilt and fed his former enemies, Germany, Japan and Italy. That cannot be denied.--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 20:31, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::::::::::Your premise is flawed. Rape of minors is much more common than gun deaths, and rape by immigrants in the UK is higher than in the US. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 21:00, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::::And a substantial portion of "gun deaths" of minors in the US are accidents, not murders. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 21:05, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:@"Anglo"/Mercian/whatever: you might want to see [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page/Archive_index/162&oldid=1406739#Latest_shooting this discussion]. But before you criticize the U.S., keep in mind that your country [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/world/europe/britain-uk-knife-violence.html is seeing a massive increase in knife crime].
:Also, please support your claim that "1,000s" of kids are being murdered by guns in the U.S. Most gun deaths are no doubt occurring in the inner city slums, where gangs (who have zero respect for the law) reign -- these cities have very strict gun control laws and have been run by leftist Democrats for decades. The Parkland shooting was the only major school shooting so far this year, in a county that voted [https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/statesub.php?year=2016&fips=12011&f=1&off=0&elect=0 66% for Hillary Clinton] with [http://dos.myflorida.com/elections/data-statistics/voter-registration-statistics/voter-registration-monthly-reports/voter-registration-by-county-and-party/ only 21% of its active registered voters being registered Republicans] as of January 31, 2018.
:Also, most shootings happen either by people with serious mental/psychological issues, or who are either (non-integrated) immigrants or sons of immigrants. Gun control is a superficial solution to both of those problems. Gun control also buys into the [[Idea of Progress]] and misses the fact that evil happens because of sin. All it does is make law-abiding people defenseless while not getting to the root of the problem of why evil things happen.
:Also, people like you don't take into account the fact that the U.S. Constitution protects gun rights and puts them at the same level as the rights to free speech and religion (of course, European countries view the concept of "rights" as something that's arbitrary and subject to whatever the government defines them as). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:15, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::Liberal areas, inner city slums, Democrat controlled areas aside, they are still happening in America. Rotherham itself is a poor urban town run by left wingers, very very different to where I live. It is still a town in England--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 21:22, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:::Thanks for responding to only one of my points, but the fact they occur mainly in leftist areas shows that the problem is not guns (besides, guns are literally a normal/regular part of life in rural areas), but rather poor governance.
:::Also, there's a town in Georgia (population of about 30,000) that ''requires'' gun ownership that has had only one murder in six years: [http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/07/cnn-admits-u-s-town-guns-required-1-murder-6-years/][https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/06/us/kennesaw-georgia-gun-ownership/index.html] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:27, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::::I am not anti gun, If I were American I would support the second amendment. I might wish to rain it in a bit. I am anti gun in the UK because the bad guys don't have them, hence the knife crime. That would not work in The USA.--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 21:38, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:::::"Reining in" the Second Amendment sounds like a euphemism for nullifying it in a way that still allows a "Second Amendment" remain in the Constitution. The founding fathers saw rights as coming from a higher power and thus being unalienable. Thus, "reining in" the Second Amendment in a way not envisioned by the founding fathers would be unconstitutional -- just like "reining in" the rights to free speech and religion. Being also a citizen of a European country and seeing the many laws restricting free speech and religion (not to mention gun rights, which the British government highly regarded in the 18th century), I know that Europeans don't view rights the same way.
:::::Here's a good article showing that [https://crimeresearch.org/2017/04/number-murders-county-54-us-counties-2014-zero-murders-69-1-murder/ the number of murders is heavily concentrated in specific portions of urban areas] (the article shows that gun ownership rates in rural areas is significantly higher than urban areas, showing that there's no correlation between guns and murder).
:::::And this study is interesting, showing that several European countries have higher mass shooting deaths ''per capita'': [https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/] (the U.S. has many more people than Europe). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:21, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
Compare the standard of living in [[Switzerland]], a beacon of European, biblical creationism, with the economic laggards in Darwinism loving Britain. There is really no comparison! Take your countries defeat like a man. There is no shame in admitting defeat. See: [http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2013/06/switzerland-beacon-of-european.html Switzerland, a beacon of European creationism, has the world's most competitive economy. Also, America (a land of creationists) is expected to dominate the world economy for years. Why are evolutionists such slackers?].
Britannia once ruled the waves, but very recently its navy flagship badly leaked. If only it hadn't embraced Darwinism! See: [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/18/hms-queen-elizabeth-britains-new-31bn-aircraft-carrier-has-leak/ HMS Queen Elizabeth leak: Navy's new £3.1bn warship 'takes on 200 litres of sea water an hour'], December 2017. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:41, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:P.S. The British abolitionist [[William Wilberforce]] was a staunch Christian - not an atheist! Put that in your atheist pipe and smoke it![[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:45, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::What has a leaking ship got to do with Charles Darwin? Even when our admittedly poor ships got a hammering off the Falklands 8000 miles from home we were still victorious. We will fight anyone, anywhere and at any time. We will never surrender.--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 20:46, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:::PS. Look up Littoral Combat ships. A multi billion $ project that produced ships that could not even do what they were designed for. Or the USS Zumwalt, a huge white elephant that was less effective than the Arleigh Burke class.--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 20:51, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
The British abolitionist [[William Wilberforce]] was a staunch Christian - not an atheist! Put that in your atheist pipe and smoke it![[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:45, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
Millions and millions of women love Jesus. But women dislike atheism and the majority of atheists are men. See: [[Atheism and women]]. If only atheist men didn't treat women so badly! See: [[Atheism and sexism]] and [[Atheism and rape]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:52, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
: Those articles were written by you and lets face it, you are biased. I was hoping to have a sensible discussion with you. Guess I was wrong.--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 20:56, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::You are in complete denial. The people most responsible for the decline of the British Empire is not the Truman family, it is the British! Empires generally crumble within.
:::An analogy. We were boxing alone to round 8. The USA then came in and beefed up our corner. We were then victorious until we were knocked out by a sucker punch from our own side after the final bell sounded.--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 21:10, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::You don't frighten me, English pig-dog! Go and boil your bottom, son of a silly person! I blow my nose at you. I don't want to talk to you no more, you animal food trough wiper! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! Now go away or I shall taunt you another time![[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:02, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:::Very nice:) but aren't The Pythons horribly liberal?--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 21:06, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::::You seem to think we love this terrorism! I was disgusted that the immigrant who tried to blow up a train only got 34 years. I am disgusted that another immigrant slaughtered kids as young as 8 at a pop concert. Children that Conservapedia favourite Theodore Shoebat described as "Pro sodomite sluts and whores". Do you really think we like this holes? And we are doing something about it, ever heard of Brexit?--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 21:32, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:::::Hey, give us Conservapedians some credit, a lot of us actually DO support Brexit, and are in fact looking forward to when Brexit passes (and good luck. I mean it, considering the government in Britain is not exactly likely to pass it despite the people wanting it. And make no mistake, I want Brexit passed, especially if it ends the EU). I can't comment on whether Shoebat actually said that about those kids or not, because if he did, that's just tasteless. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:46, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::::::I voted stay but have since changed my view.--[[User:Anglo2|Anglo2]] ([[User talk:Anglo2|talk]]) 21:50, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
:::::::I strongly agree that Brexit was a good decision if you want to reduce the violence, mainly being caused by non-integrated immigrants and social instability. However, your government has caved into the EU on several issues -- I wish you well. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:21, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
::::::::[https://youtu.be/QuK3zSxG4cs My two cents]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 22:35, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
According to Annika Mombauer, senior lecturer in history at the Open University in [[Milton Keynes]] and the author of numerous books and articles on World War I: "Many of the decision makers and, in fact, many ordinary [[Europe]]ans did feel that war would eventually come. You have to think of another "-ism" -- [[social Darwinism]], this belief that nations and peoples are subject to the same biological laws as animals and that they are going to either rise to the top or they are going to be eliminated in a vying for power."[http://www.rferl.org/content/wwi-key-questions-war-anniversary-historians/25472768.html] See also: [[World War I and Darwinism]]
Charles Darwin's book ''On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life'' was published in 1859. The ''Financial Times'' reports that [[Britain]] has had a productivity problem since its relative economic performance peaked in the mid-19th century.[https://www.ft.com/content/d778c752-2d33-11e8-97ec-4bd3494d5f14] There were signs in the latter part of the 19th century that the British empire was in decline. In 1899, wars with the Boers broke out. The numerically inferior Boers inflicted a serious of humiliating defeats upon Britain.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQNF65JHFMA]
Deny Britain has been in marked decline since its embrace of [[Darwinism]] and lose all credibility!
Darwinism, which had its birthplace in Britain, sowed the seeds of the decline of the British Empire. In terms of temporal power, the British Empire's peak was up until the beginning of WWI at the very latest. After WWI and WWI (two wars created in large part due to Darwinism[https://creation.com/darwinism-and-world-war-one][https://creation.com/darwinism-and-the-nazi-race-holocaust]), a weakened Britain could not maintain its hold on its various colonies.
As far as Islamic terrorism, Britain is asking for trouble due to its Muslim immigration policy which is bringing in masses of Muslims into Britain. "Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?" - King Solomon.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:00, 27 March 2018
:I think in context that verse refers specifically to lust. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 00:15, 27 March 2018 (EDT)
::A [[France|French]] firm wins the contract to print [[Britain|British]] passports and beats out its British rivals who simply could not compete. It has been called a "national humiliation".[https://www.ft.com/content/52637daa-2dce-11e8-9b4b-bc4b9f08f381]
::First France helped America win the [[American Revolutionary War]], then [[Napoleon Bonaparte]] pushed Britain to the side in [[Europe]]an politics and now this! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:34, 27 March 2018 (EDT)
:::France couldn't defend its own borders in 1812, 1871, 1914 or 1940; only in America do people still think France is a Great Power. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 12:41, 27 March 2018 (EDT)
::::Yeah, which reminds me, we probably need to do something akin to the common "Britain's current failures due to Darwinism" for France regarding the Enlightenment. Let's face it: Since adopting the Enlightenment principles in the prelude to the French Revolution, France hasn't been doing too hot, arguably doing worse than Britain in some regards (at least Britain's still consistently a monarchy, so it still has some positives and strengths there: France has gone through no less than nine shifts in government since the French Revolution within the past two centuries alone.). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 14:22, 27 March 2018 (EDT)
:::::You're right. But to express the thought more accurately and clearly it should be phrased, "France has gone through nine regime changes since the French Revolution." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 17:19, 27 March 2018 (EDT)
I read an article about the Irish potato famine, and it formed a horrific picture in my mind of Irish politicians so committed to protecting Ireland's vanity that they refused charitable food assistance from Queen Victoria and insisted that the transaction must take the form of Great Britain beginning enormous public works projects and paying workers from Ireland to do the work.
But now Mercian insists that we deny that picture that history presents to our senses and just accept that Great Britain "allowed millions of Irish to starve on more than one occasion".
Mercian's description allows for an enormous range of possible culpability from the trivial to the [[Holodomor]], where millions of Ukranians starved to death, so why would he choose a description of an event so vague that it can't be relevant to anything, while yet presented as if it were intended to ''prove'' something?
I don't think Mercian is a poor arguer; I think Mercian is too controlling; he presents that which we have thought about particular historical events using his propositional speech in such a way as to normalize basic mistrust of Great Britain, the subtext being that the indignity of being the object of such a range of possible outcomes in meaning regarding its blame is appropriate enough to its subject.
When Mercian presents these hints about an odiosity in Great Britain's behavior, like the boy who cried wolf, you either investigate in order to contradict him well, and he could say "see, you agreed it ''was'' appropriate enough", or you confront the attempted intervention between the passage of Great Britain's reputation to its national observers, and he could say "You didn't have the compassion to even look to see if the worst were true. You can't believe your eyes and ears when you look at the picture formed in your mind (or even evaluate your common experience in passing) upon reading the recitation of ordinary historical facts indicative of Great Britain's virtue." There's no downside for him!
I propose to dub this weak defense of one's propositions through this kind of ambivalent playing of the informant together with the potential of asking us to deny our sensations (applying in this case to sensations of those images presented by our historical narrators) the "Mercian"—as it was I who discovered it. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 05:43, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
:Mercian, is one of at least 3 British atheists who have been obsessed with my internet writings. One thing that atheists are known for is their poor grasp of history and/or their historical revisionism. See: [[Atheism and historical revisionism]]. Of course, this is not surprising as it is very apparent that that Jesus Christ had on an extremely positive effect on the world and the best explanation of this was that He was God in the flesh and that He rose from the dead.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:46, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
::"When an Englishman is arrested in England for quoting Winston Churchill, one can only regard the culture as beyond deranged."[https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/04/britain-gagged/][[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:57, 8 April 2018 (EDT)
:::I put up some posts about Britain recently to give a few smug British atheists a comeuppance. The truth is that although I think Britain needs to take a harder line on Islamic immigration and Islamic extremism, I like the politeness of the British and admire the works of various past British writers. And of course, British common law and the Magna Carta has had a great effect on world history.
:::I suspected Mercian was type of person who can dish it out, gets easily upset when challenged and also engages in denialism. He did not disappoint.
:::Lastly, I do see Britain as being in decline and and it does have below average productivity when it comes to the G7.[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5587917/Productivity-Britain-growing-fastest-pace-12-years-despite-Brexit-worries.html] But I hope that biblical Christianity grows in Britain and things are turned around.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:54, 9 April 2018 (EDT)
Mercian, is awfully silent about the essay [[Essay: A British, secular leftist in complete denial|A British, secular leftist in complete denial]].
Not a peep from him at a wiki beginning with an R.
Does Mercian have "User: Conservative-phobia"?[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:31, 13 April 2018 (EDT)