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::::Is that the world you want to live in? I hope not. The EU bureaucrats have already made it clear that they despise Trump and all he stands for, and his election means that we have forfeited our role as the leader of the West. They have already made it clear that they despise Putin and consider him a mortal enemy. And they have said that an EU army is more necessary than ever before to protect them from "threats." We all know what they consider to be threats. And the fact that they are willing to go this far to "counter" these "threats" says all we need to know about what they are and how potentially dangerous they are for both Europe and the rest of the world. I mean, forget Islamic migration. It is the bureaucrats who are the biggest danger coming out of Europe right now. --[[User:James Kardys|James Kardys]] ([[User talk:James Kardys|talk]]) 19:24, 22 April 2018 (EDT)
 
::::Is that the world you want to live in? I hope not. The EU bureaucrats have already made it clear that they despise Trump and all he stands for, and his election means that we have forfeited our role as the leader of the West. They have already made it clear that they despise Putin and consider him a mortal enemy. And they have said that an EU army is more necessary than ever before to protect them from "threats." We all know what they consider to be threats. And the fact that they are willing to go this far to "counter" these "threats" says all we need to know about what they are and how potentially dangerous they are for both Europe and the rest of the world. I mean, forget Islamic migration. It is the bureaucrats who are the biggest danger coming out of Europe right now. --[[User:James Kardys|James Kardys]] ([[User talk:James Kardys|talk]]) 19:24, 22 April 2018 (EDT)
 
::::::If it's going to happen, it's going to happen. It's already happened at a technical and economic level, now its just a matter of gaining approval from elected parliaments for minor tweaks in sharing the cost burdens.
 
::::::If it's going to happen, it's going to happen. It's already happened at a technical and economic level, now its just a matter of gaining approval from elected parliaments for minor tweaks in sharing the cost burdens.
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::::::Sure, now its an political and emotional issue. But citizens of a democratic state don't have the luxury of opting out of paying taxes to shoulder their defense burdens.
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::::::Sure, now its a political and emotional issue. But citizens of a democratic state don't have the luxury of opting out of paying taxes to shoulder their defense burdens.
 
::::::Again, it really is a prime example of creative destruction (adding the ''caveat'' that military establishments are entirely non-profit institutions, dependent entirely on their capitalist paymasters). Two simple examples: Native Americans in the US military or Chechens in the Russian military. They evolved from enemies of the Russian and US militaries into their most esteemed warriors through creative destruction. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 19:58, 22 April 2018 (EDT)
 
::::::Again, it really is a prime example of creative destruction (adding the ''caveat'' that military establishments are entirely non-profit institutions, dependent entirely on their capitalist paymasters). Two simple examples: Native Americans in the US military or Chechens in the Russian military. They evolved from enemies of the Russian and US militaries into their most esteemed warriors through creative destruction. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 19:58, 22 April 2018 (EDT)
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