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::::::::Considering that the Deep State is left-wing globalist, perhaps a combination of typical left-wing racism and the realization that Middle Eastern and African refugees so vastly outnumber Ukrainian refugees that Middle Eastern and African refugees can cause the desired chaos without the Ukrainian refugees. Pragmatic racism, I would call it. And that's assuming that the EU recently changed its policies to keep Ukrainian refugees from coming in, because I know for a fact Ukrainian refugees '''have''' been let in, particularly in Poland. What source do you have that shows a shift in such a policy? --[[User:James Kardys|James Kardys]] ([[User talk:James Kardys|talk]]) 9:53, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
 
::::::::Considering that the Deep State is left-wing globalist, perhaps a combination of typical left-wing racism and the realization that Middle Eastern and African refugees so vastly outnumber Ukrainian refugees that Middle Eastern and African refugees can cause the desired chaos without the Ukrainian refugees. Pragmatic racism, I would call it. And that's assuming that the EU recently changed its policies to keep Ukrainian refugees from coming in, because I know for a fact Ukrainian refugees '''have''' been let in, particularly in Poland. What source do you have that shows a shift in such a policy? --[[User:James Kardys|James Kardys]] ([[User talk:James Kardys|talk]]) 9:53, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
 
::::::::::Look closer. Poland is allowed to retain its sovereignty and sick the dogs on refugees, as Starikov points out, cause it has a border with Ukraine. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 10:43, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
 
::::::::::Look closer. Poland is allowed to retain its sovereignty and sick the dogs on refugees, as Starikov points out, cause it has a border with Ukraine. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 10:43, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
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:::::::::::Why would the globalists openly allow Poland (and presumably the other Visegrad states) to keep its sovereignty while Western Europe is not? If that's the case, there are game-changing implications.
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:::::::::::Let's say that the end goal is a federal Europe, which is what the globalists want. Throughout time, there have been conflicting definitions as to what exactly is Europe. Is it only Western Europe, which is the part of Europe that once ruled the world and spread Western ideas and culture around it? Or is it all of Europe, the continent.
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:::::::::::If the globalists consider the former answer to be correct, then no wonder they're allowing Eastern Europe to keep its sovereignty. They don't consider Eastern Europe to be Europe, so Eastern Europe is not supposed to be part of the equation.
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:::::::::::If the globalists consider the latter answer to be correct, then what is taking place in Eastern Europe is a matter of natural resistance to globalist policies that is effective due to cultural differences with Western Europe.
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:::::::::::But let's assume for a moment that the migrant crisis is indeed part of a grand conspiracy to prevent the emergence of a Western European hegemon. Does that make the Visegrad states false opposition? Does that make people like Orban and Duda globalist proxies who are in on the alleged conspiracy to destroy Western Europe? What about Trump and Farage? Are they false opposition as well? --[[User:James Kardys|James Kardys]] ([[User talk:James Kardys|talk]]) 11:00, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
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