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::The claim that vaccines don't cause autism is a claim of fact, it may be false, but it is not an opinion. We need to find a source that says vaccines cause autism if that is going to be stated in the article, if reliable sources say vaccines don't cause autism, then we should say that in the article. also, healthline seems more like a news source than a scientific source, per the MOS, shouldn't we find a better source anyway? [[User:Qw23|Qw23]] ([[User talk:Qw23|talk]]) 23:52, 8 May 2018 (EDT)
::The claim that vaccines don't cause autism is a claim of fact, it may be false, but it is not an opinion. We need to find a source that says vaccines cause autism if that is going to be stated in the article, if reliable sources say vaccines don't cause autism, then we should say that in the article. also, healthline seems more like a news source than a scientific source, per the MOS, shouldn't we find a better source anyway? [[User:Qw23|Qw23]] ([[User talk:Qw23|talk]]) 23:52, 8 May 2018 (EDT)
:::Asserting that vaccines don't cause autism is an opinion. Realistically, no set of facts could prove it. Devise an experiment that proves such an assertion and a [[Nobel Prize]] might be granted for it. The citation is simply for the fact that "the incidence of autism appears to be greater in states where children receive more vaccines, such as New Jersey and North Carolina." That is a fact worth supporting by citation.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:28, 9 May 2018 (EDT)
:::Asserting that vaccines don't cause autism is an opinion. Realistically, no set of facts could prove it. Devise an experiment that proves such an assertion and a [[Nobel Prize]] might be granted for it. The citation is simply for the fact that "the incidence of autism appears to be greater in states where children receive more vaccines, such as New Jersey and North Carolina." That is a fact worth supporting by citation.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:28, 9 May 2018 (EDT)
::::Here is a couple articles from one random source which state it from this view, that they do cause the disorder:
::::*https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/12/16/how-much-do-you-know-about-vaccine-safety.aspx
::::*https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/11/11/vaccine-safety-greater-good.aspx
::::There are plenty of these, as well as some actual research studies. If you could find one of those studies, that would be great. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 12:30, 9 May 2018 (EDT)