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:I beleive it is a fact I will hit the power ball for $180 million someday.  Does the fact I beleive it make it real?  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 00:32, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:I beleive it is a fact I will hit the power ball for $180 million someday.  Does the fact I beleive it make it real?  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 00:32, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
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::Is your fact supported by many years of research and the combined efforts of thousands of other astrophysicists? <font color="FFD700">[[User:ColinR|ColinR]]</font><sup><font color="000000">[[User_talk:ColinR|talk]]</font></sup> 00:34, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
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::Is your fact supported by many years of research and the combined efforts of thousands of other astrophysicists? <font color="FFD700">[[User:ColinR|ColinR]]</font><sup><font color="000000">[[User_talk:ColinR|talk]]</font></sup> 00:34, 4 May 2007 (EDT)\
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:::Ok, why don't you rephrase this statement,
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:::*'' The fact still remains that astronomers regard the universe to be 14.6 (approx.) years old and base all their research on this "assumption."''
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:::and '''show us what the factual conclusions are''', other that the fact that "many years of research and the combined efforts of thousands of other astrophysicists" beleive something or other.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 00:41, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
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Would it be possible to link to and cite the papers instead so that any individuals who want to read the rest of the article can follow the link?  --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 00:15, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
 
Would it be possible to link to and cite the papers instead so that any individuals who want to read the rest of the article can follow the link?  --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 00:15, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
    
Another aspect to consider - there are theories about planetary formation, star formation, and galaxy formation.  While it is reasonable to say that we do not know with certainty about these things, once can at least present information about them.  If one is to present educational information, presenting information is much more useful than presenting someone saying "don't know."  One could link to and explain http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1955PASP...67..154H for star formation for example.  This would be much more useful to a student or teacher who wants to actually learn about or teach about star formation.  With what is here, one would be tempted to go to another site that has the information instead. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 00:38, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
 
Another aspect to consider - there are theories about planetary formation, star formation, and galaxy formation.  While it is reasonable to say that we do not know with certainty about these things, once can at least present information about them.  If one is to present educational information, presenting information is much more useful than presenting someone saying "don't know."  One could link to and explain http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1955PASP...67..154H for star formation for example.  This would be much more useful to a student or teacher who wants to actually learn about or teach about star formation.  With what is here, one would be tempted to go to another site that has the information instead. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 00:38, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
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