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Talk:Alliance Defending Freedom (view source)
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::::It sounds to me like they are saying there is not reason for Trump's order to not be upheld based solely on personal words of officials. However, they do not believe that they are allowed to take an official stand, due to the Lemon test. Am I misunderstanding this? --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 19:01, 25 June 2018 (EDT)
::::It sounds to me like they are saying there is not reason for Trump's order to not be upheld based solely on personal words of officials. However, they do not believe that they are allowed to take an official stand, due to the Lemon test. Am I misunderstanding this? --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 19:01, 25 June 2018 (EDT)
:::::Also, let me respond to Andy's latest comments.[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Alliance_Defending_Freedom&diff=1430124&oldid=1430122][http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Alliance_Defending_Freedom&diff=1430128&oldid=1430125]
:::::Why does ADF need to praise Trump's immigration policy? Their mission is free speech and religious liberty -- immigration isn't their focus, and that's what groups such as the Center for Immigration Studies or NumbersUSA are for. Does a pro-second Amendment group have to praise Trump's immigration or trade policies? Does a pro-life group have to praise Trump's deregulatory agenda? It's a good thing if they do, but they don't have to, because these issues lie outside their missions and focus. The ADF focuses on religious liberty and free speech (as the latter relates to religious liberty), and in that area, it does great.
:::::Considering that the ADF focuses on religious liberty, it makes complete sense that it only praised the actions of the Trump Administration relating to religious liberty. The ADF (like most conservative organizations) specializes in one particular area, so it would appropriately comment on one particular area of the administration's policies (the policies as they relate to religious liberty). Considering that we conservatives support Trump because of his strongly conservative policies (if Trump governed like Bush, Kasich, or Guiliani, we wouldn't support him), I don't see why it's damning that it's not praising Trump as a person. Also, on the links that I provided, one link was an entirely new policy (the DOJ's religious freedom guidance), and another was the administration withdrawing an Obama Administration policy.
:::::All of the cases I linked are related to the ADF's mission. It's unfortunate that it didn't get involved in the illegal alien abortion case, and we can criticize it for that, but we should not condemn the entire organization in the first sentence of the article's intro simply because of this one unfortunate incident.
:::::Bottom line: the ADF has its flaws (duh!), like almost every conservative and conservative organization, but overall, it is on the right track, standing for the religious liberty (it's sole focus) of Christians (including creationists), things that the vast majority of legal organizations refuse to do. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:20, 25 June 2018 (EDT)