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::::::::Does the ADF still do good work?  It might.  I agree it's not the [[ACLU]].  I'm sure there are still good people at ADF.  But when a restaurant has new management, restaurant reviews do not credit or punish them based on what prior management did 2+ years ago.  Here, we strive to provide candid, up-to-date info even as things change.  And, by the way, the Kochs and their dark money may have been part of that January 2017 coup at ADF, so saying ADF is not like the Kochs may be a bit ironic.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:34, 27 June 2018 (EDT)
 
::::::::Does the ADF still do good work?  It might.  I agree it's not the [[ACLU]].  I'm sure there are still good people at ADF.  But when a restaurant has new management, restaurant reviews do not credit or punish them based on what prior management did 2+ years ago.  Here, we strive to provide candid, up-to-date info even as things change.  And, by the way, the Kochs and their dark money may have been part of that January 2017 coup at ADF, so saying ADF is not like the Kochs may be a bit ironic.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:34, 27 June 2018 (EDT)
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:::::::::The intro should reflect that it's not like the ACLU even despite its flaws -- they still defended conservatives, Christians, and even creationists since early 2017, with the court decision striking down the California pro-life clinic law being one of several good actions resulting from the group's post-2017 work.
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:::::::::The intro should reflect that it's not like the ACLU even despite its flaws -- they still defended conservatives, Christians, and even creationists since early 2017, with the court decision striking down the California pro-life clinic law being one of several good actions resulting from the group's post-2017 work. As I said, they may not be 100% conservative anymore, but unlike the leftist/globalist organizations, they're definitely '''not''' 0% or even 25%. The current intro reads like it's "0%".
    
:::::::::About the Koch brothers, there's no evidence that they were involved, and the ADF still made several actions that the brothers oppose -- defending the florist, having the court strike down the California law, and defending creationists. Even with its problems, the ADF is much better than the Koch brothers, who probably despise conservative Christians while the ADF still defends them. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:56, 27 June 2018 (EDT)
 
:::::::::About the Koch brothers, there's no evidence that they were involved, and the ADF still made several actions that the brothers oppose -- defending the florist, having the court strike down the California law, and defending creationists. Even with its problems, the ADF is much better than the Koch brothers, who probably despise conservative Christians while the ADF still defends them. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:56, 27 June 2018 (EDT)
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