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::Philip, how about actually understanding the matieral in the link you give before citing it?  It talks about two possibilities (c-decay and time dilation) as solutions to the age problem for YECs.  C-decay has never been observed, so that's not a solution.  Time dilation is only significant near a massive amount of matter (like in the vicinity of a star) -- that's definitely not the case for light traveling through empty space.--[[User:Mackronking2|Mackronking2]] 00:37, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
 
::Philip, how about actually understanding the matieral in the link you give before citing it?  It talks about two possibilities (c-decay and time dilation) as solutions to the age problem for YECs.  C-decay has never been observed, so that's not a solution.  Time dilation is only significant near a massive amount of matter (like in the vicinity of a star) -- that's definitely not the case for light traveling through empty space.--[[User:Mackronking2|Mackronking2]] 00:37, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::What makes you think that I don't understand it?  Maybe you should read it properly.  It talks about ''three'' possibilities, and doesn't accept the first two (including c-decay).  Not being observed, however, should not be an issue; lots of things in cosmology have never been observed.  Humphrey's proposal has a massive amount of gravity; a small universe centred on the vicinity of Earth.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:15, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::What makes you think that I don't understand it?  Maybe you should read it properly.  It talks about ''three'' possibilities, and doesn't accept the first two (including c-decay).  Not being observed, however, should not be an issue; lots of things in cosmology have never been observed.  Humphrey's proposal has a massive amount of gravity; a small universe centred on the vicinity of Earth.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:15, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
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:::OK, if you understand it, then it should be simple to resolve our argument.  Simply integrate the time dt using GR equations as a light ray travels from a distant galaxy (say, z=5) to Earth (z=0).  If you're right, then the total time should be less than 6000 years.  If I'm right, then the total time should be on the order of 10s of billions of years.  It'll all come down to two simple numbers.  I will do the same if you like.  I await your (numerical) response.--[[User:Mackronking2|Mackronking2]] 08:20, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
    
That article oly quotes Dr. humprey (who i Dr. humprey?), why it didn't quoted different sources; like stephen hawkings?
 
That article oly quotes Dr. humprey (who i Dr. humprey?), why it didn't quoted different sources; like stephen hawkings?
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