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:Good. I'm following you. Will you have figures on ''both'' estimated internees and deaths between a certain timeframes, and will the timeframes of the two categories match up? `[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 13:43, 10 October 2018 (EDT)
 
:Good. I'm following you. Will you have figures on ''both'' estimated internees and deaths between a certain timeframes, and will the timeframes of the two categories match up? `[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 13:43, 10 October 2018 (EDT)
 
:Also, there were penal battallions that served with the Red Army during WWII who served with a shovel rather than a rifle. These may have existed before the war, and continued after the war. They mostly dug trenches and tank traps. They had a high casualty rate from hunger, disease, exhaustion, and combat fatalities. Being they were constantly on they move, and sometimes not directly under control of the KGB, not much is known. But Solzhenitsyn mentions them from third hand testimony, and the losses evidentially are high. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 13:50, 10 October 2018 (EDT)
 
:Also, there were penal battallions that served with the Red Army during WWII who served with a shovel rather than a rifle. These may have existed before the war, and continued after the war. They mostly dug trenches and tank traps. They had a high casualty rate from hunger, disease, exhaustion, and combat fatalities. Being they were constantly on they move, and sometimes not directly under control of the KGB, not much is known. But Solzhenitsyn mentions them from third hand testimony, and the losses evidentially are high. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 13:50, 10 October 2018 (EDT)
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::I'm not a particularly good literary digger or filler of holes myself; I can refer you to a few sources by conservatives as I am able to pull them together, but some of these are quoted by a person who believes and has published together every damaging generalization people make about Christianity, but on the other hand his quoting these conservatives lends him credibility, so I don't feel too guilty about not mentioning him specifically but just the sources.
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::Our militant atheism expert User:Conservative has found one of the conservative sources independently, Rummel and quotes from him extensively, so he seems to find his reporting and sources pretty reliable.
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::I'd like to do an itemized accounting like your suggestion would entail, but I don't know what the sources look like and how difficult it would be to pull something like that together from them.  Maybe there should be a transition period when just the correction of the FIGURES that were already there are replaced by more accurate ones and an allowing of that to "sink in" for a while. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 15:03, 10 October 2018 (EDT)
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In the March 20, 2005 issue of ''The Washington Times'', Richard W. Rahn, adjunct scholar of the libertarian Cato Institute, recounted: "I happened to be at the Kremlin in Moscow in August 1992, when the Russia demographers announced they had determined there were 63 million “excess deaths” in the Soviet Union during Josef Stalin’s reign — 1923-53."
 
In the March 20, 2005 issue of ''The Washington Times'', Richard W. Rahn, adjunct scholar of the libertarian Cato Institute, recounted: "I happened to be at the Kremlin in Moscow in August 1992, when the Russia demographers announced they had determined there were 63 million “excess deaths” in the Soviet Union during Josef Stalin’s reign — 1923-53."
  
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