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::Our militant atheism expert User:Conservative has found one of the conservative sources independently, Rummel, and quotes from him extensively, so he seems to find his reporting and sources pretty reliable.

::Our militant atheism expert User:Conservative has found one of the conservative sources independently, Rummel, and quotes from him extensively, so he seems to find his reporting and sources pretty reliable.

::I'd like to do an itemized accounting like your suggestion would entail, but I don't know what the sources look like and how difficult it would be to pull something like that together from them.  Maybe there should be a transition period when just the correction of the FIGURES that were already there are replaced by more accurate ones and an allowing of that to "sink in" for a while. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 15:03, 10 October 2018 (EDT)

::I'd like to do an itemized accounting like your suggestion would entail, but I don't know what the sources look like, and how difficult it would be to pull something like that together from them.  Maybe there should be a transition period when just the correction of the FIGURES that were already there are replaced by more accurate ones and an allowing of that to "sink in" for a while. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 15:03, 10 October 2018 (EDT)

In the March 20, 2005 issue of ''The Washington Times'', Richard W. Rahn, adjunct scholar of the libertarian Cato Institute, recounted: "I happened to be at the Kremlin in Moscow in August 1992, when the Russia demographers announced they had determined there were 63 million “excess deaths” in the Soviet Union during Josef Stalin’s reign — 1923-53."

In the March 20, 2005 issue of ''The Washington Times'', Richard W. Rahn, adjunct scholar of the libertarian Cato Institute, recounted: "I happened to be at the Kremlin in Moscow in August 1992, when the Russia demographers announced they had determined there were 63 million “excess deaths” in the Soviet Union during Josef Stalin’s reign — 1923-53."

Actually, this had been determined ten years prior as quoted by a Russian university organization<ref>Dyadkin, Iosef G. (1983). ''Demograficheskaya statistika neyestestvennoy smertnosti v SSSR'' [''Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R.: 1928-1954''] trans. Tania Deruguine (Piscataway NJ: Transaction Publishers [Rutgers University])</ref> reported 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" for the USSR overall, with 34 to 49 million under Stalin.</ref>

 

Actually, this had been determined ten years prior as quoted by a Russian university organization<ref>Dyadkin, Iosef G. (1983). ''Demograficheskaya statistika neyestestvennoy smertnosti v SSSR'' [''Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R.: 1928-1954''] transl. Tania Deruguine (Piscataway NJ: Transaction Publishers [Rutgers University])</ref> reported 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" for the USSR overall, with 34 to 49 million under Stalin.</ref>

This university organization republished this account in 1993 and may have been the very book mentioned by Richard Rahn.  It may have been misquoted in a ''Pravda'' article—if ''Pravda'' published it at all and was the mode of transmission—and picked up by Rahn or misunderstood by Rahn.  In 1993 this may have been the first official acknowledgement by Moscow of these figures or the first time ''Pravda'' had reported them.

This university organization republished this account in 1993 and may have been the very book mentioned by Richard Rahn.  It may have been misquoted in a ''Pravda'' article—if ''Pravda'' published it at all and was the mode of transmission—and picked up by Rahn or misunderstood by Rahn.  In 1993 this may have been the first official acknowledgement by Moscow of these figures or the first time ''Pravda'' had reported them.

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