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| | :Petitions to the governing authorities of a nation or people were usually introduced with the phrase, "''we pray you to'' [ do this or that ] ". [[Attorney]]s for the prosecution and the defense even today frequently address the court (the bar), in words spoken or written, with the word "pray": for example, "''Your Honor, the defense prays the court to ...''". Formal petitions by governors to the king or queen anciently addressed that sovereign lord or lady first with a preamble acknowledgement of their authority, followed by the words: "''The people pray Your Majesty'' [ to do this or that ''or'' to cause to cease this or that ] ''for the benefit of the realm''". | | :Petitions to the governing authorities of a nation or people were usually introduced with the phrase, "''we pray you to'' [ do this or that ] ". [[Attorney]]s for the prosecution and the defense even today frequently address the court (the bar), in words spoken or written, with the word "pray": for example, "''Your Honor, the defense prays the court to ...''". Formal petitions by governors to the king or queen anciently addressed that sovereign lord or lady first with a preamble acknowledgement of their authority, followed by the words: "''The people pray Your Majesty'' [ to do this or that ''or'' to cause to cease this or that ] ''for the benefit of the realm''". |
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| − | :In ordinary society individuals often begged other individuals for a favor or benefit by praying them to consider some factor in their favor or some distress that needs to be addressed; for example a mother praying her husband, the father of their daughter or son, to forgive what the son or daughter has done. Those who were not members of the court of the emperor or sovereign, nor members of the legislative body of the nation, but who wished to appeal for some relief or benefit for themselves or on behalf of another, normally petitioned a member of the court in favor with the ruler or governing council to favorably represent them and to personally present the petition or prayer on their behalf for due consideration, and request the sovereign or ruling body to render a favorable decision. This is the proper form. (See [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Esther+4%3A6-8&version=RSVCE Esther 4:6-8]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+2%3A24-25&version=RSVCE Daniel 2:24-25]; [http://biblehub.com/multi/Romans/13-7.htm Romans 13:7]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+13%3A17&version=RSVCE Hebrews 13:17]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+5%3A16-18&version=RSVCE James 5:16]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+2%3A13-17&version=RSVCE 1 Peter 2:13-17]; [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/jude/1-8.htm Jude 8].) An individual with no official standing in the administration of the nation who entered and approached to represent himself or herself as having a legitimate petition would be held in contempt as [[Presumption|presumptuous and bold]], as having no respect for the authority of the court by going over their heads. In the military they would be guilty of circumventing the "appropriate chain of command". In none of these instances is divine worship meant by a prayer of petition to authority. | + | :In ordinary society individuals often begged other individuals for a favor or benefit by praying them to consider some factor in their favor or some distress that needs to be addressed; for example a mother praying her husband, the father of their daughter or son, to forgive what the son or daughter has done. Those who were not members of the court of the emperor or sovereign, nor members of the legislative body of the nation, but who wished to appeal for some relief or benefit for themselves or on behalf of another, normally petitioned a member of the court in favor with the ruler or governing council to favorably represent them and to personally present the petition or prayer on their behalf for due consideration, and request the sovereign or ruling body to render a favorable decision. This is the proper form. (See [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Esther+4%3A6-8&version=RSVCE Esther 4:6-8]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+2%3A24-25&version=RSVCE Daniel 2:24-25]; [http://biblehub.com/multi/romans/13-7.htm Romans 13:7]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+13%3A17&version=RSVCE Hebrews 13:17]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+5%3A16-18&version=RSVCE James 5:16]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+2%3A13-17&version=RSVCE 1 Peter 2:13-17]; [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/jude/1-8.htm Jude 8].) An individual with no official standing in the administration of the nation who entered and approached to represent himself or herself as having a legitimate petition would be held in contempt as [[Presumption|presumptuous and bold]], as having no respect for the authority of the court by going over their heads. In the military they would be guilty of circumventing the "appropriate chain of command". In none of these instances is divine worship meant by a prayer of petition to authority. |
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| | :When the word prayer is narrowly defined and understood to mean '''''only''''' speaking to God, then its fuller meaning has been stripped away and its language has been abused and violated. Most often this occurs unconsciously, because of how the word is normally used in [[American]] culture. Many are surprised to discover its broader legitimate meaning as found in authoritative dictionaries of the English language. | | :When the word prayer is narrowly defined and understood to mean '''''only''''' speaking to God, then its fuller meaning has been stripped away and its language has been abused and violated. Most often this occurs unconsciously, because of how the word is normally used in [[American]] culture. Many are surprised to discover its broader legitimate meaning as found in authoritative dictionaries of the English language. |
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| | :See the [http://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_peter/1-15.htm Interlinear Bible link]. <br>Compare multiple versions of [http://biblehub.com/multi/2_peter/1-15.htm 2 Peter 1:15] and multiple [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/2_peter/1-15.htm commentaries].<br>The Greek grammar favors the first reading, which supports the interpretation that Peter's stated intention is to assist them from heaven even after he dies. This is also the Orthodox and Catholic doctrine. The words ΔῈ ΚΑΊ following on ΣΠΟΥΔΆΣΩ seem to imply that the author would do something else besides the ὙΠΟΜΙΜΝΉΣΚΕΙΝ, whereby his readers after his death would be put in a position to remember what he now writes to them and all he taught. (Compare Jesus' words in [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14%3A25-26&version=RSVCE John 14:25-26].)<br>Other interpreters see some ambiguous evidence of possible grammatical latitude in the Greek structure of the sentence which allows the second reading. Such a reading by not referring to what Peter will do "''after my departure''" supports the Protestant doctrine that denies the traditional Catholic and Orthodox teaching about the intercession of the saints. The doctrine of the active intercessory ministry of the saints in heaven is dismissed by [[Evangelical Christianity|Evangelical]] theology as being a corrupt compromise with [[Superstition|superstitious]] [[Paganism|pagan]] [[polytheism]], and a [[blasphemy|blasphemous denial]] of the [[mediation]] of the One Mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_timothy/2-5.htm 1 Timothy 2:5]. | | :See the [http://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_peter/1-15.htm Interlinear Bible link]. <br>Compare multiple versions of [http://biblehub.com/multi/2_peter/1-15.htm 2 Peter 1:15] and multiple [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/2_peter/1-15.htm commentaries].<br>The Greek grammar favors the first reading, which supports the interpretation that Peter's stated intention is to assist them from heaven even after he dies. This is also the Orthodox and Catholic doctrine. The words ΔῈ ΚΑΊ following on ΣΠΟΥΔΆΣΩ seem to imply that the author would do something else besides the ὙΠΟΜΙΜΝΉΣΚΕΙΝ, whereby his readers after his death would be put in a position to remember what he now writes to them and all he taught. (Compare Jesus' words in [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14%3A25-26&version=RSVCE John 14:25-26].)<br>Other interpreters see some ambiguous evidence of possible grammatical latitude in the Greek structure of the sentence which allows the second reading. Such a reading by not referring to what Peter will do "''after my departure''" supports the Protestant doctrine that denies the traditional Catholic and Orthodox teaching about the intercession of the saints. The doctrine of the active intercessory ministry of the saints in heaven is dismissed by [[Evangelical Christianity|Evangelical]] theology as being a corrupt compromise with [[Superstition|superstitious]] [[Paganism|pagan]] [[polytheism]], and a [[blasphemy|blasphemous denial]] of the [[mediation]] of the One Mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_timothy/2-5.htm 1 Timothy 2:5]. |
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| | + | ==No other intercessor== |
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| | + | "I exhort therefore, first of all, that petitions, prayers, <big>''intercessions''</big>, and givings of thanks, be made for all men: for kings and all who are in high places … For there is one God, and <big>''one mediator''</big> between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" |
| | + | :1 Timothy 2:1 and 2:5. |
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| | + | If it is blasphemous, and a doctrine of demons from hell, to teach that there is any other '''intercessor''' than Jesus, because there is only "'''one mediator''' between God and men, the man Christ Jesus", then Paul's teaching urging others to make intercession for all men is '''[[blasphemy]]''', and a doctrine of demons from hell. |
| | + | *[https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-interceding.html '''What is the purpose of Jesus interceding for us in heaven?''' - Got Questions Ministries (gotquestions.org)] "'''''No one else'''—not Mary, not any previous Christian saintss—has the power to '''intercede''' for us before the throne of the Almighty. No angel has that position. Christ alone is the God-man, and He mediates and '''intercedes''' between God and man. “For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5).''" (<small>''boldface emphasis added''</small>) Clearly this "no one else" excludes living intercessors who pray for us and for the salvation of sinners. |
| | + | *[https://www.biblword.net/jesus-intercedes-for-us/ '''Why is Jesus interceding for us?''', Esther Visser (biblword.net)] "''And Jesus is the '''only''' One who can '''intercede''' for our salvation, not Mary or any 'saint'.''" (<small>''boldface emphasis added''</small>) Clearly this excludes the living saints whom Paul addressed in his letters, which includes the living saints who are Christians today who receive his words. From Matthew 27:52 to Revelation 20:9 [[Strong's]] lists 60 references to living saints. |
| | + | *[https://www.biblword.net/to-whom-should-we-pray/ '''Should we pray to Mary?''' (biblword.net)] "''Mary, like all the others prayed to God. ... It is Jesus and not Mary who '''intercedes''' for us''" (<small>''boldface emphasis added''</small>) |
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| | + | If Paul's urging of intercessions by others is ''not'' blasphemy, but is a teaching inspired by God, because it '''''is''''' in the Bible (2 Timothy 3:16-17), "and the scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35), then the teaching that there is '''no other intercessor''' for all men than Jesus Christ contradicts the Bible, and it cannot be a teaching of God, and on this basis (''[[sola scriptura]]'') ''those who teach that there is no other intercessor for all men cannot be of God'', and their teaching is blasphemy, born of [[ignorance]] of the scriptures (Matthew 22:29; Mark 12:24; Matthew 15:14; Revelation 22:11) "for some are quite ignorant of God. I say this to your shame" 1 Corinthians 15:34. This is not difficult or hard to understand (2 Peter 3:15-18). |
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| | + | Compare Revelation 5:8; 8:3-4; Acts 12:5; Romans 1:9; 8:26; 15:30; 2 Corinthians 1:11; 9:14; Philippians 1:19; 4:6; Colossians 1:9; 4:2-3; 2 Thessalonians 1:11; 3:1-2; 1 Timothy 5:5; Philemon 4, 22; Hebrews 13:18; James 5:14-16; Psalm 141:2; Malachi 1:11. |
| | + | *[https://bibleresources.org/intercessory-prayer/ '''Let Your Petitions Be Made Known To God: What is Intercessory Prayer''', By Betty Miller (bibleresources.org)] |
| | + | *[https://www.biblestudytools.com/classics/murray-ministry-intercession/god-seeks-intercessors.html '''God Seeks Intercessors''' - Murray Ministry (biblestudytools.com)] |
| | + | *[https://www.logosapostolic.org/bible_study/118-3-saved-dead.htm '''The Saved Dead go to Heaven at Death''' (logosapostolic.org)] ''This Evangelical Protestant author cites scripture to demonstrate that the saved are aware in heaven and pray''. |
| | + | *[https://www.openbible.info/topics/supports-intercessory-prayer-to-saints '''100 Bible verses supporting intercessory prayer to saints''' (openbible.info)] ''Both the living and the dead in heaven''. |
| | + | *[https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-intercession-of-the-saints '''The Intercession of the Saints''' (catholic.com)] ''Citations from the early Church Fathers'' A.D. 100 to 500. |
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| | + | Compare 2 Peter 1:15 "And I will strive after my departure you may be able to recall these things." (the word for "that" is not in the Greek text, "strive ''that''" or "''that'' you may be able"—see [http://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_peter/1-15.htm interlinear text of 2 Peter 1:15] and [http://biblehub.com/multi/2_peter/1-15.htm multiple versions of 2 Peter 1:15]) |
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| | + | 2 Maccabees 15:12-16 testifies to the doctrine that "dead" saints pray for the people: (c. 152 B.C.) "And Onias spoke, saying, 'This is a man who loves the brethren and prays much for the people and the holy city, [[Jeremiah (prophet)|Jeremiah]] the prophet of God.' " 2 Maccabees 15:14. The prophet Jeremiah was already more than 400 years dead at the time, for he died sometime at the end of the 7th Century B.C. into the 6th Century B.C., generally conceded to be about 586 B.C.. |
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| | + | Also 2 Maccabees 12:42-45 testifies to the practice of intercessory prayer for those dead who had been believers but had sinned, that they might be delivered from their sin. |
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| | + | Second Maccabees and six other books and parts of books of the Catholic and Orthodox Bible have been rejected because of this and many other doctrines found in them, which have been rejected by the Protestant Reformation as promoting superstition and paganism in opposition to the pure and simple truth of the Gospel of Christ. See [[Apocrypha]] and [[Syncretism]], also [[Great Apostasy]]. |
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