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that might be relevant to an article on hate crimes
:You want to do a subhead entitled "murder", yet haven't defined the term. Then the sources you cite here on talk doesn't use the term, either. Next the proposed text actually cites a few British incidents -- evidently gays are safer in the US than in the Great Britain ''despite'' the fact their chance of being killed with a handgun is 37 greater than GB. Frankly, I don't know where we're going with all this. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 00:01, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
:You want to do a subhead entitled "murder", yet haven't defined the term. Then the sources you cite here on talk doesn't use the term, either. Next the proposed text actually cites a few British incidents -- evidently gays are safer in the US than in the Great Britain ''despite'' the fact their chance of being killed with a handgun is 37 greater than GB. Frankly, I don't know where we're going with all this. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 00:01, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
: If it is true that some people are so anti-gay as to commit murder, then that might be relevant to an article on hate crimes, but not homophobia. You repeat your definition, but it is meaningless unless you can explain how it applies. Are Kerry, Clinton, and Obama homophobes? [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 00:05, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
==A reference that doesn't say what the article says they say==
==A reference that doesn't say what the article says they say==