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::::::::::Yeah, and then Ground Zeroes just has them going back to being Soviet bloc anyways based on a comment made by Miller in the briefing files for that game, making their heel-face-turn pointless (as far as Zadornov, he may have been a villain, but the game largely treated Coldman, the CIA station chief, as even worse, even having Zadornov declare "I should have killed you when I had the chance" as well as genuinely horrified at this after Coldman started Peace Walker's false data transmission, despite that being exactly what Zadornov wanted him to do in the first place, that, and depicting America in the worst light imaginable, even by Metal Gear standards, and that series isn't exactly pro-America by any stretch [only games that come close to being pro-American by any means are Snake Eater and Portable Ops].). And as far as Kojima, yeah, he pretty much did have bad intentions all around. I heard part of the reason he created MGS2 was to act as his commentary about the Japanese Textbook controversy, with Snake's comment about showing the past in all its sordid forms in the ending implying he supported showing Japanese war crimes (put that way, I actually don't blame the Japanese at all for whitewashing their history, because if Kojima's of any indication, the ones who do want to expose the dark elements of history in Japan also tend to hate America alongside Japan as well and, well, any government or national sovereignty, not have any good aims for exposing bad elements of history.), and he admitted that MGS2's themes were about postmodernism (even though such was pretty much discredited). As far as what motive, probably the same motive that had Sartre claim that the USSR was full of freedom of expression or that Che Guevara is the most complete being of the century despite his obviously knowing full well such weren't the case, or heck, what motivated Walter Cronkite or Walter Duranty to lie about the Tet Offensive and the Soviet persecutions in the thirties, respectively, to push his left wing agenda on everyone regardless and hope he gets new followers. And I don't know about entertainment industry liberals having good intentions. Based on what George Lucas said in that AMC interview with James Cameron that I linked to, he apparently was aware at the time that the Vietcong were in fact a terror group, yet STILL supported them and made them out to be heroes in his films. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 15:57, 22 December 2018 (EST)
 
::::::::::Yeah, and then Ground Zeroes just has them going back to being Soviet bloc anyways based on a comment made by Miller in the briefing files for that game, making their heel-face-turn pointless (as far as Zadornov, he may have been a villain, but the game largely treated Coldman, the CIA station chief, as even worse, even having Zadornov declare "I should have killed you when I had the chance" as well as genuinely horrified at this after Coldman started Peace Walker's false data transmission, despite that being exactly what Zadornov wanted him to do in the first place, that, and depicting America in the worst light imaginable, even by Metal Gear standards, and that series isn't exactly pro-America by any stretch [only games that come close to being pro-American by any means are Snake Eater and Portable Ops].). And as far as Kojima, yeah, he pretty much did have bad intentions all around. I heard part of the reason he created MGS2 was to act as his commentary about the Japanese Textbook controversy, with Snake's comment about showing the past in all its sordid forms in the ending implying he supported showing Japanese war crimes (put that way, I actually don't blame the Japanese at all for whitewashing their history, because if Kojima's of any indication, the ones who do want to expose the dark elements of history in Japan also tend to hate America alongside Japan as well and, well, any government or national sovereignty, not have any good aims for exposing bad elements of history.), and he admitted that MGS2's themes were about postmodernism (even though such was pretty much discredited). As far as what motive, probably the same motive that had Sartre claim that the USSR was full of freedom of expression or that Che Guevara is the most complete being of the century despite his obviously knowing full well such weren't the case, or heck, what motivated Walter Cronkite or Walter Duranty to lie about the Tet Offensive and the Soviet persecutions in the thirties, respectively, to push his left wing agenda on everyone regardless and hope he gets new followers. And I don't know about entertainment industry liberals having good intentions. Based on what George Lucas said in that AMC interview with James Cameron that I linked to, he apparently was aware at the time that the Vietcong were in fact a terror group, yet STILL supported them and made them out to be heroes in his films. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 15:57, 22 December 2018 (EST)
 
::::::::::BTW, since you indicated you are a gamer, think you can help out with [[Essay:Greatest Conservative Video Games]] and/or [[Essay:Worst Liberal Video Games]] and add in some entries and/or expand/move around already existing entries? [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 16:02, 22 December 2018 (EST)
 
::::::::::BTW, since you indicated you are a gamer, think you can help out with [[Essay:Greatest Conservative Video Games]] and/or [[Essay:Worst Liberal Video Games]] and add in some entries and/or expand/move around already existing entries? [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 16:02, 22 December 2018 (EST)
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:::::::::::I've already made several edits to the Video Games essay pages. By the way, there is a real life equivalent to the "Patriots'" "GW" system, it's called the "trust and safety councils" that govern websites like Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. I wanted to point out how Kojima's "Patriots" were an example of liberal projection. I think you can at least take solace in the fact that Kojima has been fired from Konami. If all you said is true, then Lucas and Kojima are some very evil people, and lots of fawning fanboys are putting their blinders on. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 16:28, 23 December 2018 (EST)
    
Also I have decided to remove some movies that were on the section, for instance as I said before Labyrinth is only debatable if its pro-family, it in no way is anti-family, as for Grease its should only be on the debatable for conservative list because it contains some conservative ideas, but not a lot, and in no way is it liberal. I also removed Zulu and Blood Freak, because they too do not belong on this list. Also, I moved "Chicken Run" back to the worst liberal section, because even though, it has a feminist villain, it also has a feminist heroic leader, so in a way, it neutralizes it. Also, I moved Jurassic World to debatable.
 
Also I have decided to remove some movies that were on the section, for instance as I said before Labyrinth is only debatable if its pro-family, it in no way is anti-family, as for Grease its should only be on the debatable for conservative list because it contains some conservative ideas, but not a lot, and in no way is it liberal. I also removed Zulu and Blood Freak, because they too do not belong on this list. Also, I moved "Chicken Run" back to the worst liberal section, because even though, it has a feminist villain, it also has a feminist heroic leader, so in a way, it neutralizes it. Also, I moved Jurassic World to debatable.
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