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| | *The word suggests that it is a phobia, but there is no such recognized disorder. | | *The word suggests that it is a phobia, but there is no such recognized disorder. |
| | *Some apply the term to anyone who opposes same-sex marriage. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 19:33, 7 May 2007 (EDT) | | *Some apply the term to anyone who opposes same-sex marriage. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 19:33, 7 May 2007 (EDT) |
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| | + | :"The word suggests that it is a phobia, but there is no such recognized disorder." Agree provisionally. Haven't looked at DSM-IV myself, not a psychologist, don't know the literature, but think you're right. |
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| | + | :"Some apply the term to anyone who opposes same-sex marriage." I'm sure you're right, but should be illustrated by concrete (sourced) examples. |
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| | + | :"The term homophobia is a pejorative and offensive epithet." Disagree. It all depends who's saying it, what they mean by it, what the context is, what the implied tone of voice is. Think of "paranoid" as a parallel. Depends whether the person saying it is friendly or hostile, whether it's meant loosely or literally, and, of course, whether the person of whom its said is clinically suffering from paranoia. |
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| | + | :I might buy that it's "often" or even "usually" used that way, but I'd like to see concrete support. Also, I find "pejorative" easier to buy than "offensive," particularly given that the dictionaries don't describe it as "offensive." |
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| | + | :One of the things I'm getting at is that I do not currently think Weinberg used it that way, although it's possible that other gay-rights advocates might have used it that way from the beginning. I think Weinberg really saw it as a phobia in the clinical sense. Of course he was talking about incidents like a woman literally trembling with fear and unable to speak to him because she thought he might be gay. |
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| | + | :(One of the things you didn't mention because it's not important, but I suspect we agree on this: as a coinage it affects me like a fingernail scraping on a chalkboard, because "homo" doesn't, or shouldn't, mean "homosexual." If we're mixing slang and Greek, it could just as well be "queerophobia."). [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 21:13, 7 May 2007 (EDT) |