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→PZ Myers' prediction that the atheism movement will stagnate or shrink unless atheists change
I don’t know that we can.<ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2014/09/27/the-atheist-disillusionment/ ''The Atheist Disillusionment''] - PZ Myers, September 27, 2014</ref>}}
I don’t know that we can.<ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2014/09/27/the-atheist-disillusionment/ ''The Atheist Disillusionment''] - PZ Myers, September 27, 2014</ref>}}
== Vox Day on the Elevatorgate controversy ==
See also: [[Essay: Atheism and gamma males]]
[[File:Vox Day.jpg|thumbnail|right|150px|[[Vox Day]] ]]
[[Vox Day]] wrote:
{{Cquote|I know, I know, it's simply astonishing news that women hate atheists. [https://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/07/03/oh-no-not-againonce-more-unto Even atheist women don't like them].
:[[Jen McCreight|Jen]] has slammed [[Richard Dawkins]] for some comments here. I can confirm that those comments were actually from Richard Dawkins. I also have to say that I agree with Jen and disagree with Richard. Richard did make the valid point that there are much more serious abuses of women's rights around the world, and the Islam is a particularly horrendous offender. Women have their genitals mutilated, are beaten by husbands without recourse to legal redress, are stoned to death for adultery, are denied basic privileges like the right to drive or travel unescorted. These are far more serious problems than most American women face.
:However, the existence of greater crimes does not excuse lesser crimes, and no one has even tried to equate this incident to any of the horrors above...
:The [[Elevatorgate|elevator incident]] demands…a personal rejection and a woman nicely suggesting to the atheist community that they avoid doing that. And that is what it got. That is all [[Rebecca Watson]] did. For those of you who are outraged at that, I ask: which part of her response fills you with fury? That a woman said no, or that a woman has asked men to be more sensitive?...
Look, it's hardly news that atheist guys are creepy [[Essay: Atheism and gamma males|gammas]], for the most part. That's why they are [[Atheism and marriage|much less likely to get married]] or [[Atheism and fertility rates|have children]]. Even the [[Atheism and women|small number of atheist girls]] don't like atheist guys; the ludicrous internecine kerfluffle was kicked off by a male atheist hitting on female atheist in an elevator...
Dawkins, who as a scientific celebrity surmounted his natural gamma status some time ago, was naturally confused by all this extravagant feminized foolishness, and pointed out how stupid it all was. This caused more hissy fits to be directed his way; Dawkins, being the coward that he has shown himself to be on numerous occasions, was naturally quick to crumble.
Now, I don't think it's absolutely necessary to be hapless with women to be an atheist... No wonder they're so furious at God. He created all those lovely women with those beautiful breasts and they aren't even allowed to even talk to them in elevators.<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/07/atheists-in-gamma-hell.html Atheists in Gamma Hell]</ref>}}
== Thunderf00t on the impact of Freethought Blogs and Rebecca Watson ==
== Thunderf00t on the impact of Freethought Blogs and Rebecca Watson ==