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[[User:PeterHockey|PeterHockey]] 09:24, 5 September 2016 (EDT)

[[User:PeterHockey|PeterHockey]] 09:24, 5 September 2016 (EDT)

:Origins science is a historical science and not operational science. It is like archaeology. See: http://creation.com/origins-vs-operational-science   

:Origins science is a historical science and not operational science. It is like archaeology. See: https://creation.com/origins-vs-operational-science   

:However, the biblical creation model makes certain predictions which the evidence very strongly suggests are true.  For example, the universe had a beginning, big gulf between life and non-life [http://creation.com/origin-of-life], large gulf between man an animals (For example, no animal orchestras), no life on other planets has ever been found is a reasonable inference of the biblical model [http://creation.com/did-god-create-life-on-other-planets] whereas the evolutionist SETI project as an expensive failure and they are getting desperate now [http://www.evolutionnews.org/2016/07/desperate_for_c102977.html], etc. etc. etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:24, 5 September 2016 (EDT)

:However, the biblical creation model makes certain predictions which the evidence very strongly suggests are true.  For example, the universe had a beginning, big gulf between life and non-life [https://creation.com/origin-of-life], large gulf between man an animals (For example, no animal orchestras), no life on other planets has ever been found is a reasonable inference of the biblical model [https://creation.com/did-god-create-life-on-other-planets] whereas the evolutionist SETI project as an expensive failure and they are getting desperate now [http://www.evolutionnews.org/2016/07/desperate_for_c102977.html], etc. etc. etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:24, 5 September 2016 (EDT)

::Ok, I think I see what you mean, but concentrating on the [[starlight problem]], it doesn't make any predictions other than what it's trying to explain. So how is that valid?

::Ok, I think I see what you mean, but concentrating on the [[starlight problem]], it doesn't make any predictions other than what it's trying to explain. So how is that valid?

:::I think it is important when resolving questions to not have a myopic focus. In deciding an issue, it is important to utilize the principle of using the total evidence (see: [[fallacy of exclusion]]). When you compare the biblical worldview vs. the liberal Christianity/theology worldview and the Western atheist/agnostic worldviews (which typically have evolution as one of their underlying beliefs), the biblical worldview comes out on top (see: [[Christian apologetics websites|Evidence for Christianity]] and [[Atheist apologetics|Stagnation of atheist apologetics]] and [https://capmin.org/liberal-theologys-struggle-modern-archaeology-2/ Liberal Theology’s Struggle with Modern Archaeology]).  

:::I think it is important when resolving questions to not have a myopic focus. In deciding an issue, it is important to utilize the principle of using the total evidence (see: [[fallacy of exclusion]]). When you compare the biblical worldview vs. the liberal Christianity/theology worldview and the Western atheist/agnostic worldviews (which typically have evolution as one of their underlying beliefs), the biblical worldview comes out on top (see: [[Christian apologetics websites|Evidence for Christianity]] and [[Atheist apologetics|Stagnation of atheist apologetics]] and [https://capmin.org/liberal-theologys-struggle-modern-archaeology-2/ Liberal Theology’s Struggle with Modern Archaeology]).  

:::The starlight issue is one of the cloudier areas. For example, the big bang model has a starlight problem called the horizon problem (See: http://creation.com/light-travel-time-a-problem-for-the-big-bang ).

:::The starlight issue is one of the cloudier areas. For example, the big bang model has a starlight problem called the horizon problem (See: https://creation.com/light-travel-time-a-problem-for-the-big-bang ).

:::When choosing between worldviews, I think it is important to focus on areas where there is more clarity and less cloudiness. For example, there is a big gulf between life and non-life and that life is far more complex than the evolutionists first thought.[https://answersingenesis.org/charles-darwin/origin-life-irony-darwin-origin-species/] The creation model is a great fit when it comes to the origin of life issue. And leading evolutionists such as [[PZ Myers]], Nick Matzke, etc. have indicated that the origin of life issue is part of the evolutionary [[paradigm]] (see: http://creation.com/origin-of-life ). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:00, 5 September 2016 (EDT)

:::When choosing between worldviews, I think it is important to focus on areas where there is more clarity and less cloudiness. For example, there is a big gulf between life and non-life and that life is far more complex than the evolutionists first thought.[https://answersingenesis.org/charles-darwin/origin-life-irony-darwin-origin-species/] The creation model is a great fit when it comes to the origin of life issue. And leading evolutionists such as [[PZ Myers]], Nick Matzke, etc. have indicated that the origin of life issue is part of the evolutionary [[paradigm]] (see: https://creation.com/origin-of-life ). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:00, 5 September 2016 (EDT)

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