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==Hunted==

==Hunted==

Timber, I think the point 1990'sguy is trying to make is that, so what if seals are hunted?  Many animals are, whether they be ostriches, alligators, salmon, or deer.  By definition, environmentalists are going to try to stop all of this, to as great of an extent as they can.  This is more the case with species considered to be endangered, but these are not their only focus.<br />

Timber, I think the point 1990'sguy is trying to make is that, so what if seals are hunted?  Many animals are, whether they be ostriches, alligators, salmon, or deer.  By definition, environmentalists are going to try to stop all of this, to as great of an extent as they can.  This is more the case with species considered to be endangered, but these are not their only focus.<br />

It's also interesting that your one-sentence justification for this edit is an '''accusation''' against Conservapedia as a whole ['''I was being ironic. God you are such a sensitive lot!'.[[User:Timber|Timber]] ([[User talk:Timber|talk]]) 20:40, 17 April 2019 (EDT)]'''  If they are being hunted much more so than most other animals, I could certainly see some justification is writing a subsection on this article discussing the who/where/why of this, and perhaps specific laws and polices to restrict it.  However, just dumping a vague sentence in the intro paragraph which could apply to hundreds of articles doesn't help anyone. Feel free to educate, but don't just make subtle attempts are promoting environmentalism and edit war over them. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">DavidB4</font>]] ^{([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])} 19:28, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

It's also interesting that your one-sentence justification for this edit is an accusation against Conservapedia as a whole. If they are being hunted much more so than most other animals, I could certainly see some justification is writing a subsection on this article discussing the who/where/why of this, and perhaps specific laws and polices to restrict it.  However, just dumping a vague sentence in the intro paragraph which could apply to hundreds of articles doesn't help anyone. Feel free to educate, but don't just make subtle attempts are promoting environmentalism and edit war over them. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">DavidB4</font>]] ^{([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])} 19:28, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

:I completely agree. User:Timber, your edits have a clear leftist bias, and you constantly edit war with administrators. I'm being extremely generous to you for the time being. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:33, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

:I completely agree. User:Timber, your edits have a clear leftist bias, and you constantly edit war with administrators. I'm being extremely generous to you for the time being. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:33, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

::Also, when User:Timber reverted me, he also reverted the several unrelated copyedits I made -- sloppy knee-jerk revert. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:34, 17 April 2019 (EDT)''' [[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] I would apologize but I cannot find evidence for this claim. ''' [[User:Timber|Timber]] ([[User talk:Timber|talk]]) 20:34, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

::Also, when User:Timber reverted me, he also reverted the several unrelated copyedits I made -- sloppy knee-jerk revert. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:34, 17 April 2019 (EDT)''' [[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] I would apologize but I cannot find evidence for this claim. ''' [[User:Timber|Timber]] ([[User talk:Timber|talk]]) 20:34, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

::I find these responses utterly confusing. This sentence adds to the confusion, "but don't just make subtle attempts are '''[at?]''' promoting environmentalism and edit war over them". My intention was to criticize the attempts by [[Animal rights|animal activists]] to deprive hardworking people an important source of income and part of their culture. If you both had shown just a little patient further edits would have made it clear  This seems to me far more significant that whether or not seals are cute.  But perhaps you both are vegans! There is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_hunting long article on the seal hunt on Wikipedia], in case you might wish to learn more. And please don't stereotype me and also don't exaggerate about edit-wars (this isn't true: "you '''constantly''' edit war with administrators" (plural?). I am making an effort to communicate with you [[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]]. I'm sorry if we got off on the wrong footing.  [[User:Timber|Timber]] ([[User talk:Timber|talk]]) 20:10, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

::I find these responses utterly confusing. This sentence adds to the confusion, "but don't just make subtle attempts are '''[at?]''' promoting environmentalism and edit war over them". My intention was to criticize the attempts by [[Animal rights|animal activists]] to deprive hardworking people an important source of income and part of their culture. If you both had shown just a little patient further edits would have made it clear  This seems to me far more significant that whether or not seals are cute.  But perhaps you both are vegans! There is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_hunting long article on the seal hunt on Wikipedia], in case you might wish to learn more. And please don't stereotype me and also don't exaggerate about edit-wars (this isn't true: "you '''constantly''' edit war with administrators" (plural?). I am making an effort to communicate with you [[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]]. I'm sorry if we got off on the wrong footing.  [[User:Timber|Timber]] ([[User talk:Timber|talk]]) 20:10, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

:::To be clear, the point is not whether we support seal hunting or not...It's not that I'm specifically for or against it.  My concern is that, whether intentional or not, that edit did not seem constructive, and it's not the first time.  All we have to judge your intentions are your edits.  If we misunderstood or jumped to conclusions, then fine--Perhaps we can improve on that.  However, when we see odd, pointless, and/or suspicious edits, some skepticism seems to be in order.  Please endeavor to make helpful, substantive additions.  A stray (possibly suspicious) sentence added to the introduction of an article doesn't count. As I said, feel free to write a section on it if you wish--it's not that you can't speak on such things.  It's the way you are doing it and your apparent attitude that we are concerned about. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">DavidB4</font>]] ^{([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])} 21:08, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

:::To be clear, the point is not whether we support seal hunting or not...It's not that I'm specifically for or against it.  My concern is that, whether intentional or not, that edit did not seem constructive, and it's not the first time.  All we have to judge your intentions are your edits.  If we misunderstood or jumped to conclusions, then fine--Perhaps we can improve on that.  However, when we see odd, pointless, and/or suspicious edits, some skepticism seems to be in order.  Please endeavor to make helpful, substantive additions.  A stray (possibly suspicious) sentence added to the introduction of an article doesn't count. As I said, feel free to write a section on it if you wish--it's not that you can't speak on such things.  It's the way you are doing it and your apparent attitude that we are concerned about. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">DavidB4</font>]] ^{([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])} 21:08, 17 April 2019 (EDT)