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::Surely Christans are right in believing that stoning a rebellious child, or someone who collects firewood on a Sunday, or because they are sexually involved with someone of the same sex is no longer the word of God? That ''now'' such practices are dated –"barbaric"? That Christ brought a new message from God, one that is entirely different from what Moses received? A message in which charity and forgiveness is far more important than punishment. That we should focus first on our own failures rather than those of others:  "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her”. [[User:Timber|Timber]] ([[User talk:Timber|talk]]) 15:41, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

::Surely Christans are right in believing that stoning a rebellious child, or someone who collects firewood on a Sunday, or because they are sexually involved with someone of the same sex is no longer the word of God? That ''now'' such practices are dated –"barbaric"? That Christ brought a new message from God, one that is entirely different from what Moses received? A message in which charity and forgiveness is far more important than punishment. That we should focus first on our own failures rather than those of others:  "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her”. [[User:Timber|Timber]] ([[User talk:Timber|talk]]) 15:41, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

:::The gospel was preached to Israel in the wilderness (Hebrews 4:2). Israel was given the choice between Law and Grace. Law can only condemn, Grace saves. Israel choose Law ("Moses told us to stone such a one").

:::The gospel was preached to Israel in the wilderness (Hebrews 4:2). Israel was given the choice between Law and Grace. Law can only condemn, Grace saves. Israel chose Law ("Moses told us to stone such a one").

:::There are other such examples in the Bible where people (or man, to use the politically incorrect parlance), made choices with long-term consequences that God did not ordain, such as when Jethro (Moses' father-in-law) gave advice to [[community organizer|organize]] the people into captains of tens and captains of hundreds, etc., or when God advised against Israel having a King who would "multiply horses," (i.e. build a military industrial complex) and Solomon proceeded to do exactly that. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]} 15:56, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

:::There are other such examples in the Bible where people (or man, to use the politically incorrect parlance), made choices with long-term consequences that God did not ordain, such as when Jethro (Moses' father-in-law) gave advice to [[community organizer|organize]] the people into captains of tens and captains of hundreds, etc., or when God advised against Israel having a King who would "multiply horses," (i.e. build a military industrial complex) and Solomon proceeded to do exactly that. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]} 15:56, 19 April 2019 (EDT)