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So then civil war meaning armies of any nation? Middle Man, I find you quite knowledgable and can understand your rebuttal quite well. Is it a civil war or a world wide war then? What you are describing is a world wide war or maybe a war of independence. If you look at the American civil war, both sides looked to other nations support however none participated in military action. In Iraq, you have outside powers (defined), possibly caught up in a war with militias and foreign extremist elements (quasi undefined). North Iraq versus Middle Iraq versus Southern Iraq would in fact describe a civil war, pitting a side against another.  Shiite militias/death squads versus Sunni militias/death squads with a guerilla Al Qaeda movement of foreign fighters is a civil war? More like a religious war or war of independence. You have a coalition of willing nations trying to prevent an elected govt from failing (much like the French coming to Americas defense in 1776). What does the Iraqi population want of their country, rogue bandits taking charge or their elected govt? The line is blurred, you can make your case it is a civil war, it is not a civil war, it is a low level civil war, a religious war. It is a national conflict with many nations contributing to the success or the defeat of the current government.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:33, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

So then civil war meaning armies of any nation? Middle Man, I find you quite knowledgable and can understand your rebuttal quite well. Is it a civil war or a world wide war then? What you are describing is a world wide war or maybe a war of independence. If you look at the American civil war, both sides looked to other nations support however none participated in military action. In Iraq, you have outside powers (defined), possibly caught up in a war with militias and foreign extremist elements (quasi undefined). North Iraq versus Middle Iraq versus Southern Iraq would in fact describe a civil war, pitting a side against another.  Shiite militias/death squads versus Sunni militias/death squads with a guerilla Al Qaeda movement of foreign fighters is a civil war? More like a religious war or war of independence. You have a coalition of willing nations trying to prevent an elected govt from failing (much like the French coming to Americas defense in 1776). What does the Iraqi population want of their country, rogue bandits taking charge or their elected govt? The line is blurred, you can make your case it is a civil war, it is not a civil war, it is a low level civil war, a religious war. It is a national conflict with many nations contributing to the success or the defeat of the current government.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:33, 4 May 2007 (EDT)