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→i talked about the transgender murders, LGBTQ+ suicides and lessons in the bible: Clarify.
:::::So, what you're saying, JohnZ, is that we in this website must cave in to the left's way of thinking. Is that what you're saying, JohnZ? Is that what your version of "love" means? That we have to tolerate everyone, behavior included? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 17:31, 16 May 2019 (EDT)
:::::So, what you're saying, JohnZ, is that we in this website must cave in to the left's way of thinking. Is that what you're saying, JohnZ? Is that what your version of "love" means? That we have to tolerate everyone, behavior included? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 17:31, 16 May 2019 (EDT)
::::::Love is not synonymous (actually, it's an antonym) with failure to discern between what is morally right and wrong, and popularity is not an indicator of truth. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:12, 16 May 2019 (EDT)
::::::@JohnZ: Love is not synonymous (actually, it's an antonym) with failure to discern between what is morally right and wrong, and popularity is not an indicator of truth. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:12, 16 May 2019 (EDT)
:::::(edit conflict) Also, keep in mind that we don't oppose homosexuality or transgenderism because we simply dislike it or have some "subconscious hatred" or whatever -- we're simply repeating what the Bible says, as the ultimate source of authority. For example, [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1&version=ESV Romans 1:26-27] states that homosexuality not only is sinful behavior, but that it's also punishment for sinful behavior (remember, this is the New Testament--good bye to your notions that it's all just "Old Testament stuff"). Also, [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6&version=ESV 1 Corinthians 6:9-10] list homosexuality as an act that indicates that one is not saved. Also, see [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+1&version=ESV 1 Timothy 1:9-10]. There are other passages that deal with the topic of marriage (see Jesus's statement in [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19&version=ESV Matthew 19:4-5], for example). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:12, 16 May 2019 (EDT)
:::::(edit conflict) Also, keep in mind that we don't oppose homosexuality or transgenderism because we simply dislike it or have some "subconscious hatred" or whatever -- we're simply repeating what the Bible says, as the ultimate source of authority. For example, [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1&version=ESV Romans 1:26-27] states that homosexuality not only is sinful behavior, but that it's also punishment for sinful behavior (remember, this is the New Testament--good bye to your notions that it's all just "Old Testament stuff"). Also, [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6&version=ESV 1 Corinthians 6:9-10] list homosexuality as an act that indicates that one is not saved. Also, see [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+1&version=ESV 1 Timothy 1:9-10]. There are other passages that deal with the topic of marriage (see Jesus's statement in [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19&version=ESV Matthew 19:4-5], for example). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:12, 16 May 2019 (EDT)
=== JohnZ: Excerpt, picture and caption from Conservapedia's flagship [[homosexuality]] article ===
=== JohnZ: Excerpt, picture and caption from Conservapedia's flagship [[homosexuality]] article ===