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::<shakes head back and forth to make sure he just heard that reply> What? how is this... wha? I am so confused by your reply to this I don't know what to say. <composes self> How is beating a pregnant woman a hate crime? <exits, pursued by a bear> [[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 18:19, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
 
::<shakes head back and forth to make sure he just heard that reply> What? how is this... wha? I am so confused by your reply to this I don't know what to say. <composes self> How is beating a pregnant woman a hate crime? <exits, pursued by a bear> [[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 18:19, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::I do realize that pregnant women are more vulnerable to domestic violence than women who aren't pregnant (though I do not believe this is usually a hate crime (as I understand the term) at all - it has more to do with the change in the relationship that pregnancy creates), and I had figured this was part of what the sentence was trying to convey.  The problem for me is not so much that there is a problem with what the sentence is ''trying'' to say, as that the sentence as it stands does not make sense.  (''battered pregnant women by boyfriends and husbands after becoming pregnent''? Huh?)  It is hard to understand and should be re-worded to make the meaning clear.  It may need to be broken up into several sentences, or re-arranged, in order to make sense.  (Plus "pregnant" is spelled two different ways in the same sentence.)  Is the sentence a list of categories of hate crime victims?  And are you trying to get at how many anti-gay hate crimes there are, by subtracting other kinds of crimes (or something like that)?  Not trying to be difficult at all, just trying to get this section to read a little easier for the average user.  I don't want to make the changes myself because I don't fully understand what the paragraph is trying to say, and I don't want to mess it up.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 22:15, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::I do realize that pregnant women are more vulnerable to domestic violence than women who aren't pregnant (though I do not believe this is usually a hate crime (as I understand the term) at all - it has more to do with the change in the relationship that pregnancy creates), and I had figured this was part of what the sentence was trying to convey.  The problem for me is not so much that there is a problem with what the sentence is ''trying'' to say, as that the sentence as it stands does not make sense.  (''battered pregnant women by boyfriends and husbands after becoming pregnent''? Huh?)  It is hard to understand and should be re-worded to make the meaning clear.  It may need to be broken up into several sentences, or re-arranged, in order to make sense.  (Plus "pregnant" is spelled two different ways in the same sentence.)  Is the sentence a list of categories of hate crime victims?  And are you trying to get at how many anti-gay hate crimes there are, by subtracting other kinds of crimes (or something like that)?  Not trying to be difficult at all, just trying to get this section to read a little easier for the average user.  I don't want to make the changes myself because I don't fully understand what the paragraph is trying to say, and I don't want to mess it up.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 22:15, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
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*''''battered pregnant women by boyfriends and husbands after becoming pregnent''
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:This refers to a "victim class" [http://www.americansfortruth.com/issues/freedom-under-fire/]
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