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→‎Set Theory: It is obviously paradoxical for the “the last will be first, and the first last” in common situations ... except when viewed through the logic of set theory.
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You may want to be a little more careful in the claims made in the lead section and, when appropriate, provide double-attribution. The prophecy of events in the Bible is OK but you should avoid revisionist claims in terms of specific scientific progress. It is sometimes very easy to take credit for specific aspects of scientific progress. I am just recommending caution and editorial review for the sake of protecting the reputation of the wiki as a trustworthy encyclopedia. An example might be a claim that it was G-d's Will that some fortunate historic event came out one way or the other (such as a military battle or potential Act of Nature) but it is more extraordinary to claim that a particular game of chess (or some such) was won through Divine Intervention. There are many scientific discoveries that came about in part because of accidents that can be treated as Acts of God, but attribution to the efforts of the researcher is also appropriate. One example might be the invention of the light bulb that was in part due to the grace of G-d but it was also due in part to Edison's persistence of making many hundreds of tries before he came upon a viable working model. Oh, I now see that my comments might be more appropriate over at [[Essay:Rebuttal to Biblical scientific foreknowledge]]. I am not sure I intend for a direct rebuttal but rather cautious claims and, to some degree, a meeting of the minds.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 18:03, 12 January 2017 (EST)
 
You may want to be a little more careful in the claims made in the lead section and, when appropriate, provide double-attribution. The prophecy of events in the Bible is OK but you should avoid revisionist claims in terms of specific scientific progress. It is sometimes very easy to take credit for specific aspects of scientific progress. I am just recommending caution and editorial review for the sake of protecting the reputation of the wiki as a trustworthy encyclopedia. An example might be a claim that it was G-d's Will that some fortunate historic event came out one way or the other (such as a military battle or potential Act of Nature) but it is more extraordinary to claim that a particular game of chess (or some such) was won through Divine Intervention. There are many scientific discoveries that came about in part because of accidents that can be treated as Acts of God, but attribution to the efforts of the researcher is also appropriate. One example might be the invention of the light bulb that was in part due to the grace of G-d but it was also due in part to Edison's persistence of making many hundreds of tries before he came upon a viable working model. Oh, I now see that my comments might be more appropriate over at [[Essay:Rebuttal to Biblical scientific foreknowledge]]. I am not sure I intend for a direct rebuttal but rather cautious claims and, to some degree, a meeting of the minds.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 18:03, 12 January 2017 (EST)
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== Set Theory ==
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What is paradoxical about this? It's "first in, last out", a concept, a few of hunters will have experienced after entering a narrow cave. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 20:03, 8 June 2019 (EDT)
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You seem to be referring to this:
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:Set theory was unknown until the devout [[Christian]] [[Georg Cantor]] developed it in the late 1800s to understand [[God]] better.  But [[Jesus]] taught, “So the last will be first, and the first last” (Matthew 20:16 [[ESV]]), a concept that is paradoxical ''except'' in set theory.  This set-theory concept is also echoed by the repeated references to [[Jesus]] as the "Alpha and the Omega" in the [[Book of Revelation]].  (Revelation 1:8, 21:6, 22:13)
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What is paradoxical about this? It's "first in, last out", a concept, a few of hunters will have experienced after entering a narrow cave. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 20:03, 8 June 2019 (EDT)
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It is obviously paradoxical for the “the last will be first, and the first last” in common situations ... except when viewed through the logic of set theory.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:07, 9 June 2019 (EDT)
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