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:::Look, if the argument is "the USSR wasn't communism," and then post up a bunch of quotes from the Book of Acts, we're just spinning our wheels. It's no different than forcing Christians to defend a bunch of atrocities from the Crusades. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 11:20, 16 July 2019 (EDT)
:::Look, if the argument is "the USSR wasn't communism," and then post up a bunch of quotes from the Book of Acts, we're just spinning our wheels. It's no different than forcing Christians to defend a bunch of atrocities from the Crusades. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 11:20, 16 July 2019 (EDT)
::::While Marxists quote Acts (beginning with Engels), "they held everything in common," fulfilling Jesus's command to "love one another, by this everyone will know ye are my disciples," loving one another cannot by done by an edict from the [[Politburo]] or an Obamacare mandate. Why does this have to be debated? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 12:39, 16 July 2019 (EDT)
::::While Marxists quote Acts (beginning with Engels), "they held everything in common," fulfilling Jesus's command to "love one another, by this everyone will know ye are my disciples," loving one another cannot by done by an edict from the [[Politburo]] or an Obamacare mandate. Why does this have to be debated? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 12:39, 16 July 2019 (EDT)
:::::I think this sums it up: [https://carm.org/all-things-in-common]
:::::I think this sums it up: [https://carm.org/all-things-in-common] {{unsigned}}
::::::Yes, exactly ("My kingdom is not of this world"). Let me go one step further: while Marxists decry [[theocracy]], they seem to advocate atheocracy. We are implored to ignore Jesus' divine command to "love one another," than out of the other corner of their mouth they see some divine divine wisdom in "holding everything in common." The plain facts are, Jesus ''''''did not''''' command his disciples to divest themselves of [[capital]]. Yes, he told sinners to do so ("eye of the needle" quote, "give up everything to poor" to young rich man ''who was not a disciple''). The passages quoted about early Christians in the book of Acts '''''were not''''' (1) mandated by God, and (2) frankly, naive and stupid. And they paid a dear price. Jesus in fact preached against prodigality in numerous places; the early Christians mistook prodigality for "loving one another." The Apostle's themselves said "it is not right that we leave the preaching of the Gospel to serve tables." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 13:02, 16 July 2019 (EDT)
My question is pretty simple for this ML guy, should he return: What makes you think that an ideology that has to control 80% or more of an individual's existence a good thing, up to and including stuffing someone into a gulag for not toeing the commie party line? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 07:09, 16 July 2019 (EDT)
My question is pretty simple for this ML guy, should he return: What makes you think that an ideology that has to control 80% or more of an individual's existence a good thing, up to and including stuffing someone into a gulag for not toeing the commie party line? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 07:09, 16 July 2019 (EDT)