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Communism is '' not '' a system in which the State owns/controls everything. That is Cold-War era propaganda. Communism cannot have full-State control, because Communism is a '''stateless''', classless, moneyless society. Marx did not believe that the government should be supreme. Leftists believe in the principles of democracy, and in making sure that all people have a voice. You cannot argue against a strawman.
Communism is '' not '' a system in which the State owns/controls everything. That is Cold-War era propaganda. Communism cannot have full-State control, because Communism is a '''stateless''', classless, moneyless society. Marx did not believe that the government should be supreme. Leftists believe in the principles of democracy, and in making sure that all people have a voice. You cannot argue against a strawman.
:You only state what it's supposed to be in '''theory,''' but your opponents are describing '''what it actually has been in practice.''' [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 19:00, 16 July 2019 (EDT)
> While Marxists quote Acts (beginning with Engels), "they held everything in common," fulfilling Jesus's command to "love one another, by this everyone will know ye are my disciples," loving one another cannot by done by an edict from the [[Politburo]] or an Obamacare mandate. Why does this have to be debated?
> While Marxists quote Acts (beginning with Engels), "they held everything in common," fulfilling Jesus's command to "love one another, by this everyone will know ye are my disciples," loving one another cannot by done by an edict from the [[Politburo]] or an Obamacare mandate. Why does this have to be debated?