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Debate:Listing the Earth's most pressing needs in urgent order of fixing (view source)
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:Bolly Ottihw: do you have a source for that 1700-1800 Italy story? I never heard of that before. [[User:Leopeo|Leopeo]] 08:42, 10 May 2007 (EDT)
:Bolly Ottihw: do you have a source for that 1700-1800 Italy story? I never heard of that before. [[User:Leopeo|Leopeo]] 08:42, 10 May 2007 (EDT)
::Firstly, I don't have a direct source, it came from 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins, and I do not have a copy with me to check what sources he quoted, however if you do want to find out, I'm sure that it is not hard to obtain a copy of said book.
::If you mean the book review? I did read that. I did not find very many examples of 'good to society' in there. Firstly, of those scientists who were christian, there was almost no alternative at that time. Christianity was taught as a fact because there was little scientific evidence to challenge the god hypothesis. If raised in this day and age then very few of them would have been christians as they would have had a wealth of information on the subject that was not available then. Also, Copernicus lived under house arrest for the majority of his later years, because the church did not like his theory that the earth revolved around the sun. Does not sound like a church that is pushing for revolutions in the field of science. All there is there is a small paragraph about the abolition of slavery. Yes, you now have one good thing that the church has done for society. All of this compared with the amount of people that have been killed as a result of the church? What about all the wars that were the result of England becoming protestant as compared with the majority of European nations who were catholic? There's another example of death for religion.
::Of course religion discourages individual thought. You are not allowed to question the authority of the priests and bishops, or the bible. It is indoctrinated in young children as a fact and if they question, they are threatened with hell or simply told not to question. [[User:Bolly Ottihw|Bolly Ottihw]] 17:47, 11 May 2007