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User talk:1990'sguy (view source)
Revision as of 01:55, September 22, 2019
, 01:55, September 22, 2019→The Dixiecrat, Conservative Democrat, and Reagan Democrat Pages
Oh. Because I thought that it was conservatives who were for desegregation and liberals who were for segregation. That's why I had a hard time understanding why it said Truman was too liberal on racial issues since the liberals were segregationists.
Oh. Because I thought that it was conservatives who were for desegregation and liberals who were for segregation. That's why I had a hard time understanding why it said Truman was too liberal on racial issues since the liberals were segregationists.
:Believe it or not, there are liberal segregationists. It is not a demarcation line between liberal and conservative.
Doesn't this:
Doesn't this:
I also have a hard time understanding the Time Magazine picture from 1968 on [[Curtis LeMay]] when it says "Revolt of the '''Right'''."
I also have a hard time understanding the Time Magazine picture from 1968 on [[Curtis LeMay]] when it says "Revolt of the '''Right'''."
:Curtis LeMay was George Wallace's VP pick in 1968; he was also [[Robert MacNamara]]'s (JFK & LBJ's defense secretary) boss during the Korean War. His nickname was the "Mad Bomber". Both Nixon & Humphrey were running as "Peace candidates". I don't recall Le May's politics off the top of my head, though I'm fairly certain he was not a Republican. Again, that's Prof. Jensen's work, and IMO, [[fake news]] from the 1960s intended to smear conservatives as warmongers, as usual (in fact, most conservatives are peaceniks and isolationists). We're in agreement, the page needs an overhaul.
On the [[Reagan Democrats]] page, this feeds into the narrative that the racists jumped ships:
On the [[Reagan Democrats]] page, this feeds into the narrative that the racists jumped ships:
::Which of coarse brings us to a discussion of Louisiana Democrat politics and its godfather, Huey "Every Man a King (<small>except blacks</small>)" Long, his place in the history of American Socialism, and his successors in Louisiana-style politics and demagoguery, notable among several, [[James Carville]]... [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 15:39, 21 September 2019 (EDT)
::Which of coarse brings us to a discussion of Louisiana Democrat politics and its godfather, Huey "Every Man a King (<small>except blacks</small>)" Long, his place in the history of American Socialism, and his successors in Louisiana-style politics and demagoguery, notable among several, [[James Carville]]... [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 15:39, 21 September 2019 (EDT)
[[Image:Gop-plank.JPG|thumb|275px|1936 cartoon shows GOP building its platform from the conservative planks abandoned by the Democrats]]
:And I have one more question. On the [[Conservative]] page, is this picture accurate?
:And I have one more question. On the [[Conservative]] page, is this picture accurate?
::I'm not exactly sure of Prof. Jensen's reasoning there; I'd say it is related to the Democrat Congress in 1931 turning down Herbert Hoover's relief efforts at the start of the Great Depression, paving the way to blaming Hoover for the Depression in the 1932 election. But some it can go back as far as the creation of the Federal Reserve Board after the 1912 elections, or even the Cross of Gold speech of William Jennings Bryan in 1896. "Sound Money" in that context refers to an anti-inflationist gold standard; I don't know when Democrats ever were "Sound Money" anti-inflationists, other than when they nixed Hoover's relief efforts or passed the Federal Reserve Act (but even there, that's debatable whether the Federal Reserve Act was inflationary or for maintaining a rigid gold standard).
[[Image:Gop-plank.JPG|thumb|275px|1936 cartoon shows GOP building its platform from the conservative planks abandoned by the Democrats]]
::On the whole, I've debated with myself for years about removing some of Prof. Jensen's work, cause I regard him as a qualified historian. Only when I'm armed with the facts do I challenge some of his biases or excesses. And he does have a habit of using what I regard as biased fake news sources going back as far as 1936. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 21:55, 21 September 2019 (EDT)