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Debate:Questionable Citations (view source)
Revision as of 00:38, September 24, 2019
, 00:38, September 24, 2019→Responses
The other day, I created an article about [[Islamization]] and I cited, along with 12 other sources, an article from the European Defence League. The article seemed fine. But today, I was thinking about anti-Semites and white nationalists, because I was looking at an article by James Edwards about [[mainstream conservative]]s. The article mentioned Jews, and race, and the whole spiel. In the first paragraph, it implied that mainstream conservatives shouldn't be concerned about preserving tax cuts and Israel, and instead should care more about "ethnic identity." Evidently, it was an unintelligent, unintelligible "critique" of mainstream conservativism from a white nationalist pseudo-intellectual which even I, a [[movement conservative]] found subpar.
The other day, I created an article about [[Islamization]] and I cited, along with 12 other sources, an article from the European Defence League. The article seemed fine. But today, I was thinking about anti-Semites and white nationalists, because I was looking at an article by James Edwards about [[mainstream conservative]]s. The article mentioned Jews, and race, and the whole spiel. In the first paragraph, it implied that mainstream conservatives shouldn't be concerned about preserving tax cuts and Israel, and instead should care more about "ethnic identity." Evidently, it was an unintelligent, unintelligible "critique" of mainstream conservativism from a white nationalist pseudo-intellectual which even I, a [[movement conservative]], found subpar.
With my mind on white nationalism and anti-Semitism, my thoughts drifted to the English Defence League, which [[Tommy Robinson]] pledged to filter neo-Nazis out of. And then I though of one of my Islamization sources. "European Defence League." So I went to their website to prove myself wrong. After all, what's in a name, right? The article isn't anti-Semitic at all!
With my mind on white nationalism and anti-Semitism, my thoughts drifted to the English Defence League, which [[Tommy Robinson]] pledged to filter neo-Nazis out of. And then I though of one of my Islamization sources. "European Defence League." So I went to their website to prove myself wrong. After all, what's in a name, right? The article isn't anti-Semitic at all!
And how can one detect questionable citations?
And how can one detect questionable citations?
==Responses==
*Many sources are more complicated than "100% good" or "100% bad" -- in general, I prefer to judge individual articles, not overall sources, since I've seen some really good articles/op-eds and some really bad ones from the same source. The European Defence League might be one of them. Also, (as someone who strongly supports Israel and very extremely happy when Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem) regardless of whatever that article you read said, I think we should try not to go too far in the direction of calling everything moderately critical of Judaism "anti-Semitic." At what point will voicing sincere (but very strong) religious disagreements with Judaism become anti-Semitic? I don't want a slippery slope. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:06, 23 September 2019 (EDT)
*Yes, I get what you're saying about theological criticisms of Judaism not being anti-Semitic. But that's not what this source does. The titles of different articles say things like, "Jewish Role in Globalism;" "The Influence of Jewish Neoconservatives;" "Jewish Contributions to Mass Immigration." I'm paraphrasing, but they mention Jews by name in the very titles! And yes, I understand what you're saying about citing something based on the article not the source, but what about Conservapedia's policy disallowing linking to hate sites/hate groups. Quote from the [[Metapedia]] article: "''Note that Conservapedia forbids linking to hate groups.''" Am I overthinking this? ---BernieandTrumpFan
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