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:::::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 05:33, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 05:33, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::::::Actually, the Big Bang theory predicts the anisotropy patterns essentially perfectly.  I'm an astrophysicist with a Ph.D. from MIT by the way, so by your appeal to authority approach, you should believe me.  But don't take my word for it -- compare the numerical predicitions of the theory to the data obtained with the COBE or WMAP satellites and see for yourself.  As for the Bible being an authority, I dispute that claim because it conflicts with observations.  Simple light travel time arguments rule out a young Universe.  The Andromeda Galaxy is some 700 million light years away.  Nowadays, any Joe with a telescope and digital camera can confirm that for himself in his own backyard.  If we can see something 700 million light years away, then the light has taken 700 million years to reach us.  It's a simple argument; v = d / t.--[[User:Mackronking2|Mackronking2]] 06:20, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::::::Actually, the Big Bang theory predicts the anisotropy patterns essentially perfectly.  I'm an astrophysicist with a Ph.D. from MIT by the way, so by your appeal to authority approach, you should believe me.  But don't take my word for it -- compare the numerical predicitions of the theory to the data obtained with the COBE or WMAP satellites and see for yourself.  As for the Bible being an authority, I dispute that claim because it conflicts with observations.  Simple light travel time arguments rule out a young Universe.  The Andromeda Galaxy is some 700 million light years away.  Nowadays, any Joe with a telescope and digital camera can confirm that for himself in his own backyard.  If we can see something 700 million light years away, then the light has taken 700 million years to reach us.  It's a simple argument; v = d / t.--[[User:Mackronking2|Mackronking2]] 06:20, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
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:::::::: An appeal to authority, when it really is an authority, is a valid thing to do, but it doesn't mean that the authority is necessarily correct (infallible ones such as God excepted, of course).
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:::::::: The Big Bang conflicts with observations also, which is why so many scientists reject it, but your point about the Bible disagreeing with observations ignores the creationist models that explain it, such as those of Russell Humphreys and John Hartnett. 
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:::::::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:51, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
    
== Young earth creationist view ==
 
== Young earth creationist view ==
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